BTW, Guangzhou is one of the dirtiest Chinese cities, and it's infested by grovelling weasels from the West. I wouldn't be seen dead there!

I'm no fan of guangzhou...but you know what people (locals and expats) in Shanghai say the same about Guangzhou, but I found Shanghai to be a confusing, crowded, polluted hellhole of a place.

If your not going to live there, then where? Lifen, where you can breath coal dust and be gawked at by the locals?

Changsha with horrific water pollution, and air pollution from all the traffic?

It's swings and roundabouts all over...