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#1 Parent Babylouie - 2019-01-31
Re Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

Are there any teachers currently working at Ningbo Beilun Middle Schools in the US-Sino department with Grace- Chenlei? If so, how are things going? I was employed there many years ago and left with a sour taste. An update would be great. Thanks...

#2 Parent BL - 2016-09-06
Re Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

:( The students are cute, most of them respect teachers but I feel sorry for them because foreign teachers have a high turnover in this department.Personally, I don't think Grace is ready for this position as a dean, even though she speaks some English, she has little intercultural awareness. She deals with foreign teachers in communist party way, like she hides as many things as possible; always has stupid excuses for different avoidable problems. On the top of that, she never smiles, always frowning! To be honest, she doesn't really care about this program because she is employed by the government, so neither education quality nor students complaints will affect her life. That's why she never adopts students' advices unless parents come to demonstrate. In addition, the boss (Mr. Ying) is a gold digger, all he knows is about money. He rarely comes to the school or talks to his working staff directly. Grace and Mr. Ying try in every way to save money like employing TTC teachers which is very irresponsible to students because GAC require experienced teachers.

Grace may be a good leader for the domestic department but definitely not for international one. I do hope some qualified people can replace her some day very soon.

#3 Parent ThisisThat - 2014-05-11
Re Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

I too, unfortunately, had a most unpleasant experience teaching for this school. The visa process was handled ineptly and inefficiently. Unexpected travel expenses were incurred related to visa processing and paperwork. The grading policy seems inconsistent and questionable. There's an inherent lack of transparency as to administrative methods, often resulting in bureaucratic mishaps that create various problems for teachers. The teacher turnover rate is incredibly high, which is always indicative of poor management and administration for any school in any country. On a positive note, my students were outstanding, and I enjoyed teaching them very much. They were very well-mannered, highly intelligent, and very respectful.

#4 Parent Sergio Mendes - 2014-05-09
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

For years, the school promised to paint the rooms several times but never has. All of the rooms badly needed work. Since teacher turnover is so high, they never follow through on promises. Over 20 teachers in two years. (For four or five spots)

Grace Chen Lei regularly "tests" teachers to see if they will take a day or two less in pay. If you don't object, she'll just cheat you another way and more frequently. Teachers work overtime or six straight days including Sunday, expecting to be paid overtime, only to be told that they are compensated as they did not work on a national holiday (tomb sweeping day). You only find out about the policy on payday, when you are expected to appear at Grace's office to collect your pay "in cash". So either accept the cash minus one or two days' pay, or raise a stink and risk a bad review at the end of your time there.

The local government is starting to notice. A teacher brought his family here, at the encouragement of Grace, and once here she has declined to extend his contract beyond an additional six weeks. The Visa office called the school and asked why a foreign teacher was in his office, all by himself without a Chinese staff member to provide assistance, all to go through the trouble of doing paperwork for six weeks. The visa guy told the teacher that this was really weird and not normal in China.

If the school asks you to come here and work on a tourist visa. Do not.

#5 Parent Sergio Mendes - 2014-05-09
Re Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

Yesterday Grace short-change teachers on overtime. She said that since teachers did not have to work on a national holiday (tomb sweeping day), that made up for the extra hours worked without OT.

#6 Parent j+ - 2014-05-09
Re Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

Working for this "school" was a living hell. If you are a self-respecting professional teacher, you don't belong there. Chen Lei (Grace) is a liar and a manipulator.

#7 Parent Jhunex - 2014-04-22
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

I just can't help myself here but laugh with their school ad saying that foreign teachers will be provided with a hotel-style rooms on campus??? That is a big lie! Teacher will be leaving in a small room and will be sharing a public kitchen same with the laundry area, with other foreign and Chinese teachers as well. They will only provide in that small room is a bed, desk and cabinet with a very small bathroom. Nothing more!

#8 Parent Babylouie - 2014-04-12
Re Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

Ningbo Beilun High School-

I am a former teacher at Ningbo Beilun High School. I was employed by the ‘ SINO-US ( GAC/ACT ) program ‘for a year and a half. This initiative was managed by Grace ( (chenlei_grace@163.com). She was the head administrator and face of the program.

The factual information I provide below are events that transpired over my time employed by the department. As I give no opinions and only facts, please feel free to draw your own conclusions from the content given.

Just a reminder that the facts I present are only to indicate what occurred as being employed by the ‘ SINO-US ( GAC/ACT ) program ‘ and are in no way a reflection of the Chinese section of Ningbo Beilun High School, which by all accounts has a solid reputation.

These are some of the situations I encountered or witnessed during my employment with the ‘ SINO-US ( GAC/ACT ) program ‘-

1) Illegally hiring foreign teachers- Teachers were arriving for work in China on L-Tourist Visas as opposed to Z-Work Visas. This was often done before and is still being done now. Don’t forget that this act can result in financial penalty to you and in some cases, deportation.

2) High numbers of staff turnover- Even though most if not all staff were hired for year contracts, 33% or higher of the 20 or more teachers over the last few years- left of their own volition or were asked to leave before the end of the contract. Some stayed a week, 1 month, 2 months or longer- but very few managed to work longer than a year. A few even did the ‘ Midnight Run’.

3) Not honoring/manipulating the contract- This was something that I personally witnessed where my contract teaching hours weren’t honored by the employer. I’ve also witnessed times where other teachers were given an initial contract to sign only to sign another contract shortly thereafter with intentional changes made to the contract, without informing the signer. Another occurrence involved all teachers witnessing late pay on more than one occasion with little/no notice.

4) Being asked to impersonate someone else- This was something that I personally experienced and another teacher as well at various functions not affiliated with our program. This might be interpreted as unethical/illegal.

5) Being asked to inflate marks/accept plagiarism- We were sometimes asked to add marks to final scores and ignore plagiarism. Our students were applying to foreign universities.

There are probably other incidents that I witnessed during my employment with that department, but these are the main situations I observed directly/indirectly.

Please feel free to view the school website http://www.blzx.net.cn/ to obtain more facts about the ‘ SINO-US ( GAC/ACT ) program ‘ or search Ningbo Beilun High School.

Again, from the information given, please draw your own conclusions about the program.

Good luck in future job searches. Also please remember to research the schools and ask to speak to past/current foreign teachers.

#9 Parent Apple Pie - 2014-04-10
Re Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

Ungracious Grace should hire a couple of entertainers in a white monkey skin, they will teach all her students everything they need to know - including barking. They will not be failed in any exam anymore (barking is easy) and then will qualify for the best schools in the USA......eeh, no....-I mean on planet Mars.

Now, Grace, get that damn white monkey skin and dress up properly......LOL....hahahaha

Beware, Grace Chen Lei wants you to join her confederacy to “grease the wheels” for lazy students who expect acceptance at respectable USA schools. (So sorry, Charlie, please bribe me some more). Plagiarism rules together with a no fail policy for rich students.
#10 Parent tazoe - 2014-04-10
Re Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

“You’d have to be a freak’n whore to work here”. Do you want be part of the solution or part of the problem? Beware, Grace Chen Lei wants you to join her confederacy to “grease the wheels” for lazy students who expect acceptance at respectable USA schools. (So sorry, Charlie, please bribe me some more). Plagiarism rules together with a no fail policy for rich students. Why study if students pay “red envelopes” to Grace? 20 teachers in two years. Why is that? Is it because all 20 teachers were bad apples? Look before you leap. The school is a page out of Patrick McGoohan’s “The Prisoner”. No shit. The same recording of martial music hundreds of times a month at 100+ decibel volume. Conform or die. Buah ha ha ha ha !!!
J-Former teacher

#11 Parent j+ - 2014-03-24
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

Actually, it is not the Ningbo Beilun High School that is bad. The Chinese section has a good reputation, but a few years back some shady Chinese characters (investors) opened this “international program” there, calling it a “Sino-US” program (there is nothing of the “US” in it, except that they send students to the US every year to visit some “affiliated” schools). Actually this place is just a GAC/ACT joint, where students are not even required to be present during the courses. Many would leave for several weeks, their marks manipulated by the Chinese administrator, Grace (Chen Lei) in exchange for “red envelopes” from the parents, etc. Now, due to the bad reputation of the “international” students within the school, the main school administration has asked the program to leave. I’ve heard that it will happen this year or next year, most likely to move to Bin Hai (or Bing Hai) High School in Beilun.

Now, about that Chinese woman administrator – Grace (chenlei_grace@163.com). I spent more than a year there, and I can tell you, she hits all time world records for being unprofessional, cunning, lying, deceiving, manipulating, cheating, making up stories, playing behind your back, the list can go on and on… Every year she will try to lure foreign teachers with a good salary promises and smiles (you are not needed after one year because you will know the truth already by then). After you sign a contract, you will become a hostage to her irrational behavior, and she will try to make you do things that are contrary to the ethics of a professional teacher, like writing students’ works so they can pass, appearing in some meetings pretending to be someone else, etc. If you try to leave, she will give you (or not at all) a letter of release with the lowest performance score. There were 22 foreign teachers there in the last two years (they need only 5 every year). Most left before finishing their contracts. Working with her was like dealing with a sadistic psychopath. By the way, just like with other illegal operations in China, they will pay you in cash (no Chinese tax paid, good salary), no real health insurance (your bills will be evaluated before you leave, and they will or will not honor them, depending on their whims…). Also, watch out for the investors (Mr. Yang and his “secretary”, Christina). That couple, although they pretend to be “neutral”, they play the same game along with Grace. This place offers nothing that normal academic institutions are about. They do not teach integrity, honesty, there is no academic spirit in that place. Contrary, they support cheating, and foreign teachers are always blamed for anything and everything. Grace Chen Lei created a real monster there. Attached is an ad that this program runs on Serioustechers.com to lure foreign teachers for themselves and for another school (same Chinese investor) in Zhoushan, both in Zhejiang province, China. If you are looking for a place to teach, grow and develop, forget this one. All the best on your job search in China.

#12 Parent bellyflop - 2013-08-02
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

I agree with you that foreign teachers are not one of China's most critical needs when it comes to foreign experts.
I have conversations every year with Chinese teachers that tell me foreign English teachers are not needed.

I would have to disagree. It depends on where you go. If you are in a less developed city or town. The need isn't necessarily seen by the locals as a must. However, if you're in a larger city where people are more exposed to Westernization and Foreigners. People by far see a greater need for an English teacher. So schools tend to push harder in biggeer cities for foreign teachers. Because of the demand is there.

It just depends on where you go. China is a big country. It's not easy to Generalize.

#13 Parent Dragonized - 2013-07-09
Re: Oh I see you are just continuing with the charade

Instead of actually providing useful, factual information about how you are living more successfully you redirect the attention towards how people who criticize china are always on the losing end of life. What with others not giving them the time of day, how they can't get jobs in the west, how they are the ones to blame for all the bad experiences, etc. You actually don't know anything about these people, just guessing like how I guess about what your life is like. You really can only draw these assumptions from what you yourself have experienced. You don't give out anything which would indicate that you really know how to live a better, more fruitful life in that country, nor do you give any real solutions to these personal problems that you like to exaggerate in others who post on here. At the end of the day you don't lead by example, and instead of changing minds you actually serve as an example of why others should heed the warnings about working in some places or some countries because they just might end up having to deal with a person such as you which is something I would not want to do anymore in real life.

#14 Parent Smooth talker - 2013-07-07
Re: Competition for new chat-up line for SB

1. Hi I'm a foreigner! Do you have some laowai in you? Would you like some?

2. Being as rich as I am doesn't mean much when you're old and grossly overweight

3. Hi, you'll do

#15 Parent Beelzebub - 2013-07-06
Re: Competition for new chat-up line for SB

Good to know. Giving the troll a taste of his own medicine. I might add that someone devoid of morals such as you who proudly displays it in his pseudonym should be the last one complaining about folks who employ these kinds of argument tactics.

You're spoiling me- it's replies like that that warm the cockles of my demonic heart-Hahaha.

May I ask you if you have a girlfriend? If not why not!?

#16 Parent Alternate - 2013-07-06
Re: Competition for new chat-up line for SB

This makes me very cross

Good to know. Giving the troll a taste of his own medicine. I might add that someone devoid of morals such as you who proudly displays it in his pseudonym should be the last one complaining about folks who employ these kinds of argument tactics.

#17 Parent Beelzebub - 2013-07-05
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

A bit weird. Yes I have worked in China, but I certainly don't think it is the end of all things in this world unlike some losers who love it there because they can't see any other country.

You can't see a whole lot else at the moment apart from China now can you? Now, what really happened, you can tell me all about it?

#18 Parent Beelzebub - 2013-07-05
Competition for new chat-up line for SB

The old hyena may have changed his name, but not his moniker I see. [edited]. [edited]

This makes me very cross- I am a Grovelling Weasel and you are a Sniggering Hyena- these terms are not interchangeable- Get it-Got it? Good. Hahaha.

I have heard that Yuncheng ielts is a very fine gig for a new FT. I have met its headmaster, Mr River, and I found him a very fine and welcoming man. I have seen their flats and they look okay to me. I have met their TA's and I'm bound to say they look very bonkable-we should tell Silverboy. Hahaha. But we must change his chat up line from "No disrespect, but China is a filthy place full of money-grabbing fat bastards - hope you have your purse with you because I don't like hangers on" to ...............?? competition for new chat up line for SB-please all posters suggest- because at the moment he's done remarkably badly flitting from job to job in search of that elusive Sheila- Hahaha-all good fun SB.

#19 Parent Beelzebub - 2013-07-05
Re: And what have you achieved?

Would I be right in thinking then that you don't think highly of me?

I have never worked for Yuncheng ielts. I have been a guest in its compound- not bad flats. I have met the headmaster, Mr River, a jolly nice chap; and i know it to be a first class gig for a newbie FT. When was the last time you praised a Chinese school? It's all negative with you ,is it not?

#20 Parent Jhunex - 2013-07-05
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

You are only referring to English but to non-native teachers teaching subjects such as Math and Physics is a different scenario.

#21 Parent Connor - 2013-07-05
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

Please note that due to strict visa requirements, only applicants with UK, USA, Canadian, Irish, Australian or New Zealand nationality can be considered.

The quote above can be found on the link below:

http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/China/index.pl?read=229428

The new visa regulations applied from July 1st of this year suggest that if your passport has not been issued by the USA, or the UK, or Eire, or Australia, or Canada, or New Zealand, you won't be permitted to teach EFL in China.

#22 Parent Alternate - 2013-07-04
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

China, is not to your liking, the only reason you are still hanging about I assume is that the West won't give you a job?

Yes, the west certainly moved some jobs to China, like Yuncheng for example. Could be their investments helped this country you "love" so much be able to make a few chinese rich and maybe one of them even started a training center . And why do you always assume people who aren't working in the west have to come to china? A bit weird. Yes I have worked in China, but I certainly don't think it is the end of all things in this world unlike some losers who love it there because they can't see any other country. Or maybe it's because other countries won't take them due to them having a criminal background? Some people make a choice rather than do something out of desperation. [edited]. [edited]

Stop biting.. biting.. biting (stylus made in UK) the hand that feeds you. am I right or am I right?

I should say this: Blimey look who's back with the same old broken record on his gramophone-the same rusty old gramophone needle trying to make sense of ithe worn out

Good to see you back ,dear boy- have a gay weekend.

The old hyena may have changed his name, but not his moniker I see. [edited]. [edited]

#23 Parent Dragonized - 2013-07-04
Re: And what have you achieved?

You don't sound any more moderate than those whom you try to cut down. The way some posters both regular and irregular on here talk negatively about some places you talk negatively in a similar way about foreign teachers. As if you know exactly what goes on in the personal lives of people you've never met. How many places have you worked at in the country of China specifically? From what you've written on this board, I can say that the only place you have worked at is Yuncheng Ielts. Where else? You want to give "advice" to those who have worked at places like other training centers, public middle schools, public high schools, public universities, private colleges, international high schools, etc. on how to behave? I've worked at most of these types of places, and since I have worked in China all over I can give accurate information and advice. You can't, and it shows. Your tired mantra of: "you work here, so you shouldn't say anything bad" is quite disturbing. It's one thing to tell others to be moderate, quite another to tell others to not question anything about where you are no matter what the circumstances.

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#24 Parent Dragonized - 2013-07-04
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

I have conversations every year with Chinese teachers that tell me foreign English teachers are not needed.

If they really feel this way, they should advertise their sentiments loudly. How about a big march on the streets to show some guts at the supposedly indecent, unneeded, and unnecessary presence of foreign teachers and perhaps foreigners in general? Nothing like a cowardly display of contempt towards guests to show how "brave" you really are eh?

If English is for business and actually using it, in order to attract us "lowly" foreign teachers you have to offer a little more than you would pay for domestic talent. I am here all by myself with no support in a foreign land, and that has to be worth something.

Foreign teachers really are like islands. You can't really find too many fellow expats who are worth giving trust to in the long run, and now you have insult on top of injury with chinese teachers weaseling their way to getting more money in a mostly underhanded manner. Just can't catch a break. Only the virtue of actually living honestly compared to most people around you is something to take solace in.

However, the E.S.L students either took some time or did not undertsand the non-native teachers at all.

If these E.S.L. students need to have their hands held even in a western country, imagine how behind students in a foreign country are. For me I would think that if a local teacher instructing English did in fact give the wrong answers in how to pronounce, write, read, and generally use something in English to the students that will only get accepted as being true. The dangerous thing in this is since we are so outnumbered that in the end the lie can become the truth in the eyes of the naive students, and we who actually KNOW what the real thing in English is end up getting ignored. I for example will say the word "Bob" with my American accent, whilst some naive students will immediately TRY AND CORRECT MY WAY OF SPEAKING THIS NAME! Actually, their fake British way of saying it only makes them sound only less knowledgeable than they already are. You should know what I am talking about.

#25 Parent Dragonized - 2013-07-04
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

That lady does not look like she knows her way around anywhere, even her hometown...Scary image to say the least.

#26 Parent Beelzebub - 2013-07-04
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

Ohhh the poor Chinese bosses and Principals.

Blimey look who's back with the same old broken record on his gramophone-the same rusty old gramophone needle trying to make sense of ithe worn out message.Hahaha. If the status quo in (and i put a brand new stylus to work to play this-up to date machine) China, is not to your liking, the only reason you are still hanging about I assume is that the West won't give you a job? Stop biting.. biting.. biting (stylus made in UK) the hand that feeds you. am I right or am I right? Good to see you back ,dear boy- have a gay weekend.

#27 Parent Dragonized - 2013-07-04
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

I think it a little hard to refer to Chinese parents as racist- they just feel that they know what an FT should look like- and if the FT has got a turban on or a burka- or looks like they do themselves, they rightly feel short-changed.

The Chinese parents are Chinese people too. Chinese people in general are being racist when you in fact decide a teacher cannot teach English well merely by physical looks alone. Millions of Pakastani British Folks and I've met a few when I was working in the Middle East would make more reliable English Teachers than the drunk, alcoholic, racist, and perverted Westerners I've met in China. As for people wearing Turbans, nothing wrong with that as that is just a display of religious beliefs. Would you discriminate against someone who wears a crucifix pendant on their neck? I've met well to do, upper middle class Americans of Indian descent back home who have much better qualifications to work in the USA than native born folks, and I don't think they would bat an eyelash towards ESL teachers in general or think anybody who is working in this field has a "real" job when they themselves work in industries such as Finance, Industrial Technology, and Medical related jobs rather successfully.

No, Chinese parents ought to be thankful that there are still foreigners who are idealistic enough to come to a country like China in this case. Not all expats who go there do so because they are out of options back home. I know a guy in his early thirties who worked a six figure job in the USA, but quit to come to East Asia to have a different life. He is now a musician who does tours and works as an ESL Teacher as well. Excusing people who judge a book by its cover is the same thing as excusing progress from ever coming. As expats if we accept this kind of backwards "value" we are shortchanging ourselves.

#28 Parent foxy - 2013-07-04
Re: Good post

I'm glad you like that post. I think we have more issues we can agree about than those we can't see eye to eye on. Not much else I can add at this time except to thank you for posting about what's wrong with EFL in China. It needs to be said, and you say it.

#29 Parent Alternate - 2013-07-04
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

The poor woman looks stressed and terrorised to me.

If that's "stressed and terrorized", then Hitler always looked mournful and sorrowful as he "politely" cooed the population towards general insanity and extremism.

What do you mean 'Pure racial discrimination is applied in this school'? If these FT's are teaching English they should be thankful they have a job, not being native English speakers. You need to tell us what you mean?

Ohhh the poor Chinese bosses and Principals. Pity they only have to get a much higher salary than others, pity that they get red pockets from desperate parents and students, and pity pty them for making a minimalist effort in providing decent living quarters for ft's who fly halfway around the world just to find a halfway decent job of which there is almost none in countries such as China. Yes the ft's should be thankful! If they weren't treated like peasants in their host country they would risk the brunt of abuse by greedy Western employers, many of whom were brats who grew up in Machiavellian type famlies who hold nothing but scorn for people with less money. Not that I would suggest any westerner on here has that type of attitude.

#30 Parent Dragonized - 2013-07-04
Re: Good post

This is a very good post with a lot of good points. Despite our differences earlier this year, I have to say you made a nice contribution.

#31 Parent Beelzebub - 2013-07-04
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

What you say is true in general. However, many Chinese parents know little about teaching and are racist.

I concede that you are right that you get the odd rare multi-lingual FT who can teach English as a foreign language nearly as well as we think we can.

I know that some people from Newcastle-Devon-Bolton, New York, can be a tad difficult to understand sometimes but they are native English speakers- and in the modern world where even the whites want the whites replacing, I defend their rights to teach their own language- foreigners should know we all have different accents-we have a right to, it's out bloody language- it was formed in Europe and not Africa.

I think it a little hard to refer to Chinese parents as racist- they just feel that they know what an FT should look like- and if the FT has got a turban on or a burka- or looks like they do themselves, they rightly feel short-changed.

#32 Parent juanisaac - 2013-07-04
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

I agree with you that foreign teachers are not one of China's most critical needs when it comes to foreign experts.

I have conversations every year with Chinese teachers that tell me foreign English teachers are not needed. Fair enough if the aim to teach the language is just for testing. English then becomes just like Latin. If Chinese people want to actually use the language as a global language, I would not entrust this to the local Chinese teachers. They think they know more than me, even after I've studied English for 17 years since kindergarten and have worked in E.S.L. for eight years, but even they have their limitations.

If English is for business and actually using it, in order to attract us "lowly" foreign teachers you have to offer a little more than you would pay for domestic talent. I am here all by myself with no support in a foreign land, and that has to be worth something. Actually, my girlfriend throws me a kiss sometimes so I do get a little support.

I used to work in a high school E.S.L. department in the United States. When our E.S.L. students learned English from non-native teachers they were trained to understand Indian-English and Russian-English, for example. When they learned from native teachers then these students could undertsand more accents. The native English teachers used clear and correct language. When I assisted some Russian and Indian teachers, I understood everything they said because I learned my language from native speakers. However, the E.S.L students either took some time or did not undertsand the non-native teachers at all.

Maybe it is not such a bad idea to have some native speakers teach here. And for that you need an incentive- a little money than it would be fair to give.

#33 Parent San Migs - 2013-07-04
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

Fact is, there are too many academically well-qualified expats whose English isn't up to scratch with entitlement mentalities after inflated salaries working in EFL in China!

I think those expats with masters degrees would not be wasting their time in China earning even 20-25k rmb. They would go to Japan or the UAE or somewhere there is a tax free salary, and a living stipend.

#34 Parent foxy - 2013-07-03
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

Yes fair enough, Foxy, all should be treated with the same dignity; and if they choose to employ non native speakers in the first place, they should be treated well ,while not expecting to receive the same wage as Western FT's .

I agree with you in general re salary. However, there are always exceptions, though they will be few and far between.

We mustn't forget that it's the parents of students who expect certain criteria, and ultimately decide how much an FT is worth. I personally don't believe an English second language FT should be worth a lot.

What you say is true in general. However, many Chinese parents know little about teaching and are racist.
Another thing is that you DO get 2nd language EFL teachers looking for big bucks coz they have a master's degree. Yet their resumes aren't composed in perfect English, which they damn well should be! You can see many instances of this if you check out the resumes section of this board. I question the ability of many Chinese employers to spot that. In contrast, native speakers of English who are employers can spot that at once.
Even some native speakers who are very well qualified post-grad-wise can't write perfect resumes nor spell well. I had tried to post examples of this on the board, taken from the resumes section, but the board mods chucked all of them out!
Fact is, there are too many academically well-qualified expats whose English isn't up to scratch with entitlement mentalities after inflated salaries working in EFL in China!

#35 Parent Beelzebub - 2013-07-03
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

Given his nationality and his non-arian facial features are not of the preferred variety here, his tenacity and stamina to survive in EFL, in a country whose EFL industry tends to base its assessment of expat foreign teachers on their nationality rather than on their work performance, is worthy of praise.

I've no doubt that his employer has been treating him badly, and full marks to him for posting about that.

Yes fair enough, Foxy, all should be treated with the same dignity; and if they choose to employ non native speakers in the first place, they should be treated well ,while not expecting to receive the same wage as Western FT's .

We mustn't forget that it's the parents of students who expect certain criteria, and ultimately decide how much an FT is worth. I personally don't believe an English second language FT should be worth a lot.

#36 Parent foxy - 2013-07-03
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

The poor woman looks stressed and terrorised to me. What do you mean 'Pure racial discrimination is applied in this school'? If these FT's are teaching English they should be thankful they have a job, not being native English speakers. You need to tell us what you mean?

Some background for you re the original poster:

He's not a Johnny come lately into China EFL. He's been teaching for quite a few years on the trot in the PRC, including summer /winter camp gigs. He has oftentimes submitted his CV to this board's resume section.

Given his nationality and his non-arian facial features are not of the preferred variety here, his tenacity and stamina to survive in EFL, in a country whose EFL industry tends to base its assessment of expat foreign teachers on their nationality rather than on their work performance, is worthy of praise.

I've no doubt that his employer has been treating him badly, and full marks to him for posting about that.

#37 Parent Beelzebub - 2013-07-03
Re: Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

BEWARE!!!
To all teachers out there especially to non-native teachers specifically to all Filipino teachers, avoid this school at all cost. If ever you wil have a dealing with this incompetent, inconsiderate and insensitive principal in the near future, with an English name of Grace and using this email ad chenlei_grace@163.com, avoid her and her school. She is a blood sucking parasite ready to take advantage of you and your visa. Pure racial discrimination is applied in this school.

Attached is her picture.

The poor woman looks stressed and terrorised to me. What do you mean 'Pure racial discrimination is applied in this school'? If these FT's are teaching English they should be thankful they have a job, not being native English speakers. You need to tell us what you mean?

Jhunex - 2013-07-03
Zhejiang Beilun High School- Beilun, Ningbo

BEWARE!!!
To all teachers out there especially to non-native teachers specifically to all Filipino teachers, avoid this school at all cost. If ever you wil have a dealing with this incompetent, inconsiderate and insensitive principal in the near future, with an English name of Grace and using this email ad chenlei_grace@163.com, avoid her and her school. She is a blood sucking parasite ready to take advantage of you and your visa. Pure racial discrimination is applied in this school.

Attached is her picture.

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