So Turnoi left over that Dragonized business? (Though Martin Hainan still seems to be here.)

Puzzling. Didn't seem that big of a deal.

The SB also seems to be MIA, but he's probably just infecting Vietnamese prostitutes with his Australian nationalism.

Yes, well dragonized and turnoi used to be bosom friends. Dragonized at one point was being molested by a poster called Mancunian. Turnoi asked mancunian for his e-mail which was duly provided. Turnoi started a brief correspondence with Mancunian explaining enough about Dragon to get an undertaking that Mancunian would lay off of Dragon. On that occasion Turnoi's heart was in the right place, and in all fairness to Mancunian he did lay off of Dragon. Dragon had no right to return months later and dump on (which SB readily seized upon) Turnoi, then having done the dirty deed, cease posting.