I understand what you are saying in the context of this board.

Turnoi and SB should become Muslims, as well as the manufactured one O'Shei. They drink enough to qualify and even use drugs ,fake or non-fake....and they talk about women as if they were shite...Do they even give women drugs like happens in some English towns and cities? You note I am not interested in what the Koran says but what actually is the life-styles, and it would suit the aforementioned just fine. But that's all small potatoes, we should concentrate on what the official line is on women and gays- because there we are talking about discrimination(actual and intended) against more than half of the world's population. I'm laughing because Chinese women seem to find me a breath of fresh air.