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Foxy - 2016-12-15
In response to Your opinion about the School Reviews board (BeenThere)

Do you think that the Reviews
board should be used only for info on specific schools? Or at least as much as possible?

The problem with the Review board is that we only get to hear one side of the story; that of the FT. Whilst that is often good enough, especially if it is articulate and explained well, it's still only one-side of the story.

Without giving unnecessary credence to the stories of corrupt FAO's, misunderstanding of culture, 'face', and even language-barriers can sometimes exacerbate a problem that could have otherwise been avoided.

If you want to simplify the system as much as possible, the first few thoughts that spring to mind are these:

1. Don't even THINK about working in China unless you have the correct credentials. a) a Z-visa. b) an authenticated/verified degree. c) TESOL/TEFL/TESL.

2. If anyone tells you that the above is not necessary, they are bare-faced liars and should be given the widest berth possible. Failure to heed this warning could see you arrested, fined, deported, and with no chance of returning to China for up to 5 years.

3. There are 'good schools' and 'bad schools'; there are 'good agents' and there are 'bad agents'. Trust your instinct; do your 'homework'; ask a million questions on as many forums as possible.

4. FT's in China are becoming fewer and fewer. This means it's essentially a 'buyer's market'. Don't accept a monthly salary of less than RMB10K in smaller cities, or less than RMB15K in bigger ones. (Beijing is not worth going to for less than RMB18K per month).

5. If you are honest with yourself and decide you cannot teach English grammar effectively, then training centres are OK, (despite Turnoi's disapproval), providing you stick to the bigger franchises such as WEB or Global IELTS. Avoid EF (English First) and Disney English at all costs. 'Meten English' is OK if you go to a major city, otherwise avoid it like the plague. Xin Dong Fang (Beijing New Oriental) have both training centres and heaps of schools (including 17 campuses throughout Beijing), so they are OK too. Avoid the small, non-franchised training centres at all costs or you'll be screwed. Also avoid long-distance 'on-line' teaching because you won't get paid!

6. If you initially take a job in a training centre, aim to get out of there as quickly as possible and into a school. That means a 12-month contract, maximum, just to get experience and to find-your-feet with regards to the subjects/areas you enjoy teaching and find yourself to be good at.

7. If you are a female, under 30, and love kids, then kindergartens can be rewarding both job-wise and salary-wise. However, if you're a guy in your 50's, avoid them because it's really hard work!

8. Primary schools are OK for all, but only if you genuinely love kids.

9. Middle/High schools can be OK, but the level of English ability in the same class can vary from excellent to absolute shite! Therefore it can be somewhat 'challenging' to say the least, especially when you have to write your own exams.

10. Universities are the best option for serious teachers who genuinely love teaching. However, the pay is seriously 'abusive', even when taking into account the low cost-of-living in China. RMB5000 per month is enough to EXIST on, so unless you have another source of income (perhaps in your home country), or are already well-off, universities should be avoided simply due to the lousy salary.

'BeenThere'. I probably could have answered this better after giving it more thought. However, I just read your post and replied with a somewhat 'knee-jerk' reaction. That said, I stand by everything I have written above, and if anyone ignores it they shouldn't expect to have their complaint on the Review board taken seriously. (IMHO)

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Your opinion about the School Reviews board -- BeenThere -- 2016-12-15
Re Your opinion about the School Reviews board -- Foxy -- 2016-12-15
Re: Re Your opinion about the School Reviews board -- BeenThere -- 2016-12-15
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