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Callum West - 2010-04-19
In response to Re: Dongbei Primary beware! (Garbage Laowai)

Not that I know anything about this language centre but this comment:

A school is not a business!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are there to educate those little
innocent children... but it sounds to me you are more interested in making money out of them.

Is an interesting one. Might I ask if the place you were working in was a state-school or a training institute. If the former then I have nothing to say, if the latter then your concept is similar to those of many misguided foreign teachers here.

A training institute is just that... a business. It is not a school, it does not have the certificates of a school, it does not provide compulsory education. It is a training centre. Imagine back home and wanting to learn Chinese in your free-time, you would go to a training centre not a school.

If we foreigners can realize this little insight we might be a bit better at dealing with the situation that is Teaching Language in China. As a semi-vet of 5 years in China I see time and again FTs complaining that the place they work in cares more about making money than the education side. Well imagine if you were running that business what would you do?

Before you attack me with common western business ideals, yeah I know them too. And man do I wish they would realize that word-of-mouth advertising is indeed the best way. And how to get that going, provide a great service. So focus on the education side and the rest will fall into place.

But just imagine where you are coming from...a country with a long history in the service sector. Western countries are tertiary economies, China is secondary. Service here is not like back home because it hasn't evolved yet. Yes you want to help them, and yes you know your ways work back home, but that's back there not here. You have to play to your market. The Chinese mindset ain't the American or British mindset. It's different.

So, I certainly don't condone what this Fred guy has done, and it seems typical of small-scale ETCs (English Training Centres) and you've got every right to do what you did.

All I can say is that these things should be expected in this country. Face-value is as valuable as a torch without a bulb in this industry.

Messages In This Thread
Dongbei Primary beware! -- KFesl -- 2009-12-17
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- OMack -- 2013-07-03
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- San Migs -- 2013-07-04
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- OMack -- 2013-07-04
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- San Migs -- 2013-07-05
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- OMack -- 2013-07-06
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- MikeK -- 2013-07-05
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- OMack -- 2013-07-06
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- MikeK -- 2013-07-03
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- OMack -- 2013-07-04
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Alternate -- 2013-07-05
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- OMack -- 2013-07-06
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- San Migs -- 2013-07-05
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- MikeK -- 2013-07-04
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Mahoma Iza -- 2010-04-21
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- lucy -- 2010-02-22
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- ybrunson -- 2010-01-28
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Right Said Fred -- 2009-12-17
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- KJK -- 2009-12-17
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- KFesl -- 2009-12-17
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- bosslove72 -- 2010-01-16
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Maria -- 2010-04-12
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Fred -- 2010-04-16
More info on Dongbei Primary -- Maria -- 2010-04-19
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Truthseeker! -- 2010-04-19
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Garbage Laowai -- 2010-04-18
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Callum West -- 2010-04-19
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Maria -- 2010-04-20
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Mike -- 2010-04-20
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Callum West -- 2010-04-20
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Dragonized -- 2010-04-18
Stay clear of this garbage place! -- Garbage Cleaner -- 2010-04-19
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Maria -- 2010-04-17
Re: Dongbei Primary beware!- Extra Money for Fred -- Pocketer -- 2010-04-18
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Bill Collector -- 2010-04-17
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Busineesman -- 2010-04-17
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- montanovaa -- 2010-04-17
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Busineesman -- 2010-04-17
Broke in China -- Aussie Bloke -- 2010-04-16
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Oldtimer -- 2010-04-16
On garbage here and there -- Garbage Cleaner -- 2010-04-16
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Bosslove72 -- 2010-04-12
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Maria -- 2010-04-01
Re: Dongbei Primary beware! -- Alcatraz -- 2010-04-02
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