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englishgibson - 2010-08-07
In response to Re: Safea Blacklist - a worry indeed! (RedCat)

RedCat, you are full of it. The SAFEA can cancel your FEC, and the local police your "residency" you've applied for prior to your visa for work and that much is true. However, your foreign passport visa can only be cancelled after a legal action is filed against you. Breaking a local law may allow your employer to have your visa cancelled. So, has this happened to you???

On topic of the Safea Blacklist and Red Cat's suggestion not to run, I'd say either way running or not you may end up blacklisted by the SAFEA which may put you in danger when applying for your future FEC, local job posts and even work permits as you need the FEC to get it. It's worth mentioning that many local SAFEA offices in fact are run poorly and by some corrupt officials and some FTs do not even sign or are not presented the organization's official contractual agreements before signing into their employers' contracts. Then, some local employers abuse not only their employees that've to sign two contradictory agreements, but also the SAFEA official contracts that are numbered and registered as some FTs are presented with a copy/counterfit SAFEA contract which may not serve them well in the local court of law then. Speaking of the local arbitrations, they are quite difficult on mainland and they most often serve the local employers, not the foreign workers. Even though many local employers are worried about any negative publicity, they often succeed and that due to so many options that they have and we don't have. Most importantly and as I have mentioned before, many local employers' evaluation system is often highly questionable and your choices to accept it or not are so limited on mainland. Most often you have to enter a land full of mines where if you stand still till the end of the given time you'll survive till the end of it.

Now, what should worry about the Safea Blacklist is the organization's approach to the foreign experts on mainland China. There surely are some foreign experts or nonexperts that deserve to be listed, however, there also are some that do not deserve the "honor" to be on it and consequently the nuisance they might have to go through then. If the SAFEA wanted to be more organized and if it wanted to standardize its function around the country, its officials would have to keep their honesty and integrity a bit more than they have. Creating a negative database of foreign teachers, that is adequately fair and transparent, requires a lot more than what they have offered. First of all, the local SAFEA officials would have to be more approachable to us and also speak English a bit better than many of them do, and then they'd have to look into the local employers evaluation system of their foreign teachers as well as the local employers contractual agreements with their foreign teachers. Agreeably, the local employers can and should be able to offer anything they wish to, although many of them should be looked at much closer by the SAFEA when it authorizes them on mainland and the Foreign Expert Certificates should only be issued to the ones that pass much stricter measures of this organization. But we all know that this is quite impossible on mainland given the circumstances. So, many FTs are going to be left in the dark and frustrated if local employers choose to either bypass their job applications or corrupt some local officials for the "appropriate documentation", and then some FTs will choose to go home or work illegally if they cannot obtain the FEC or the legal work permit. The local system seemingly counts on the internet to attract more foreign teachers on mainland, but many of us know what the current trend on mainland is and news spread fast. More and more poorly qualified foreign teachers will arrive, more and more foreign "spies" will squeeze in, and more and more local employers will "improvise" which is going to eventually destroy anything the field of education should stand for.

Cheers and beers to education :)

Messages In This Thread
Re: Safea Blacklist - a worry indeed! -- RedCatXia -- 2010-08-02
Re: Safea Blacklist - a worry indeed! -- englishgibson -- 2010-08-02
Re: Safea Blacklist - a worry indeed! -- jim jackson -- 2010-08-02
Re: Safea Blacklist - a worry indeed! -- Redcat -- 2010-08-04
Re: Safea Blacklist - a worry indeed! -- englishgibson -- 2010-08-03
Re: Safea Blacklist - a worry indeed! -- redcat -- 2010-08-04
Re: Safea Blacklist - a worry indeed! -- coke -- 2010-08-02
Re: Safea Blacklist - a worry indeed! -- RedCat -- 2010-08-04
Re: Safea Blacklist - a worry indeed! -- englishgibson -- 2010-08-07
Re: Safea Blacklist - a worry indeed! -- To be or not to be! -- 2010-08-05
Re: Safea Blacklist - a worry indeed! -- To be or not to be! -- 2010-08-03
Re: Safea Blacklist - a worry indeed! -- englishgibson -- 2010-08-04
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