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Dragonized - 2011-04-15
In response to Re Racism "Normal" in Asia? (English Online)

Like America, China too confront racism and prejudice, no doubt about it as I spent two years teaching English as a foreign teacher there but it's sure whole lot better than police stop and search for unfairly targeting ethnic minorities and civil rights violations here in the states.

You're comparing apples with oranges here. Civil rights violoations are no doubt wrong no matter where they're committed. However police in china are much more likely to take bribes. They also willingly assist the local mafia. The private "education" body is tied in to the government. Have you read news from overseas newspapers that print in chinese? You don't know about the countless people who get beaten and disappeared for trying to obtain justice when they appeal to the local government branches in China? Of course there is corruption everywhere, but there is such a thing as some places being better and others being worse. I would'tve responded in the same way that you JUST DID before I had worked in china due to my own lack of knowledge of how the system in china really works. May I remind you of the recent case in California in the city of Bell where the people helped get rid of some bad government officials? Even younger chinese celebrities such as HanHan are willing to point out the lack of officals in china to do their jobs, although this in my mind is the direct result of the way the system is set up.

Oh and Americans don't leave their country not because they're living a luxurious lifestyle but because most of them are just bunch of ignorant rednecks who are uninformed, ideaological and can't
realize how much the outside world has changed. I find the US ignorance about the world
outside their country astonishing. Even when American job outsourcing is killing America
and those who are still employed are facing deteriorating work conditions, declining
benefits and shrinking incomes.

You basically categorized all Americans who leave their country in one large negative category as being ignorant, uninformed, yada yada yada. Well you shouldn't forget to include both of us as we are both Americans, are we not? To be honest with you the words you used to describe Americans who leave their country could've applied to myself before I went out of the country to work and travel (except the redneck part as I'm not necessarily from the consensual "redneck" area), only to find that working in foreign countries really give you insight on how much fortune you have of actually living in a free country. No doubt the state of the economy is bad, I had trouble myself finding a good job after coming back, but the opportunity to create, share, and build on good ideas from the grassroots of American values is what makes people get along. There are many companies who are changing their structure and letting people who work in the companies have a more free say in what goes on. Profits are also shared more equally to attract employees. In china you see people hopelessly addicted to materialism, money, and power to ease the pain of their own emptiness. What remedy is there?

Oversea Chinese are returning to China in large numbers on a daily
basis and those are planning to leave China have absolutely no idea the kind of hardship
awaiting for them ahead.

You would know the people who are suppsedly "returning" in your mind may not have any idea of the real modern lifestyle and "culture" waiting for them, right? Also those who leave China may not be necessarily going back to their home countries, they may be going somewhere else, too.

As for the classical novel, you obviously didn't think what I said through, whether you feel as if it was even reading was up to you. However keep in mind the interpretation of the book through the eyes of other countries and cultures do not necessarily equal anti-chinese sentimentalism. We shouldn't take the words of people whom we disagree with as merely a waste of their breaths. As someone who calls himself/herself an "American Born Chinese" I'm already doubting you are willing to think outside of the box on this one. You can just take this as my opinion, and if you don't agree with it we can just agree to disagree, peace.

Messages In This Thread
Re Racism "Normal" in Asia? -- Dragonized -- 2011-04-14
Re Racism "Normal" in Asia? -- Han -- 2011-04-14
Re Racism "Normal" in Asia? -- Dragonized -- 2011-04-14
Re Racism "Normal" in Asia? -- Dragonized -- 2011-04-14
Re Racism "Normal" in Asia? -- English Online -- 2011-04-15
Re Racism "Normal" in Asia? -- Dragonized -- 2011-04-15
Re Racism "Normal" in Asia? -- English Online -- 2011-04-17
Re Racism "Normal" in Asia? -- Dragonized -- 2011-04-17
Re Racism "Normal" in Asia? -- Dragonized -- 2011-04-17
Re Racism "Normal" in Asia? -- Dragonized -- 2011-04-17
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