Hi, I will address your post now, if i may?

Because the employer has employed an FT illegally.

Two wrongs don't make a right. The employer and the FT are both culpable then, imho.

If he issues a release letter, the letter will prove the illegal employment.

Which could have been avoided if they had done things legally, right?

It'll be interesting to see what transpires in Yuncheng, if anything.

Indeed, keep me posted. I don't expect much to change, but who knows?

I'm not teaching now, so it won't affect me.

Fair enough.

I forgot to mention that some FTs in Yuncheng have Shanghai residence permits, which is also illegal.

Yes, I'd agree it's illegal, but I'd rather have a residence permit even from there, than not. If push came to shove, who would get kicked out first?

I'm not going to answer your other questions on this public board

Fair enough, but it still doesn't mean working on a Z visa legally is wrong. Many countries, like Taiwan, and yes, it is a country, insist on foreigners obeying the law.

, but I agree with you that it's risky to teach illegally.

Agreed. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Unlike you, I can sleep well while doing so. We are all different.

Maybe you can, maybe you can't, at a personal level I just hope the knock on the door never happens for you, it's not pleasant. China do not issue retirement visas, do they not? Do you have the green card? I'd hold your fingers over the keys until you are actually a resident in some form.

But then again, I have the money to pay for new passports and to pay fines.

On that no problem, it's your money. I still maintain it is a ballache.

As for HK, it's a concrete jungle that I have no interest whatsoever in visiting.

Some people might say thinner mongolia is a freezing, primitive hellhole. Personally, I thought thinner mongolia not too bad, especially in summer. Great food up there, the best I ate in China.

As I said, we are all different.

True, vive la difference.

Good luck in your job search.

Thanks, the cogs are still turning, support appreciated and respected.

I do not envy you living in the UK.

Seems many in the UK, also do not envy you living in China?

Free speech there is being severely compromised.

Did you read my bit about HK? China has nowhere near the amount of free speech that HK,or the UK has. Right to assemble? No chance, the police would just make a bloodbath,,,,,

I will look at your link, but won't promise I will listen to it. I still maintain that the UK and other commonwealth realms are far freer than China ever will be.

Peace and light,
SMGS