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Dragonized - 2013-01-20
In response to Re: On hacking from the outside (ASTF)

If that is the case then the child cannot legally leave the country without registering to get a chinese birth certificate in order to get a Hukou Ben in order to get an ID card and finally a passport I.e. they would HAVE TO become a Chinese citizen.

Not a completely accurate statement. While there is a Chinese Birth Certificate that is required for all people born in China, I know personally of a Chinese American man who immigrated with his family when he was but a baby. He never obtained a Hukou Ben and he never received an ID card with his ShenFenZheng Number. Being that he became naturalized as a citizen of a Western country now he is no longer entitled to apply for a ShenFenZheng (I.D.) number as defined by Chinese Law since only citizens can apply.

If you had read the post below you would see that I stated that the Chinese don't allow dual nationality (good to see you're keeping up).

Said poster didn't say he wouldn't acknowledge what you knew about the issue of nationality. No need to patronize.

1. Try and find a way to get around the whole wait until the kid is 18 nonsense to legally relinquish the Chinese nationality
2. Accept it and stay in china
3. Leave china while still a Chinese national and head for their other parents homeland (they can do this on a tourist visa in their chinese passport). Once there they can apply for citizenship of that country. This isn't usually a problem for most westerners as our countries allow dual nationality. The problem that might arise though is if the child then tries to re-enter China they could find themselves in a spot of trouble and a potential bureaucratic nightmare.

Regardless of what you've seen or heard you don't know what you're talking about! I'd suggest you contact the British Embassy in Beijing if you'd like to verify my comments.

While you may have stated the facts on the legal situation for such a person who fits the description, the idea of being "accepted" as talked about by San Migs was specifically started on the issue of getting citizenship for an expat who was originally not born in China, but has worked there for years. Even if the kids are considered to be citizens of China, they are not considered "Chinese" but "Hun Xue Er" if their physical traits stand out too much. I believe there was the emotional sentiment regarding your kids not being considered Chinese that may have been due to a personal experience or the observation of a fellow colleague who had a similar situation.

You can disagree with other courtly, your "one size fits all" mentality leading to accusative remarks like the ones you have typed would only invite more arguments.

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Re: On hacking from the outside -- foxy -- 2013-01-13
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Mancunian -- 2013-01-13
Re: On hacking from the outside -- foxy -- 2013-01-13
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Mancunian -- 2013-01-13
Re: On hacking from the outside -- foxy -- 2013-01-13
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-14
Re: On hacking from the outside -- foxy -- 2013-01-14
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-14
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Mancunian -- 2013-01-14
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-14
Re: Don't worry, be happy! -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-15
Re: Don't worry, be happy! -- foxy -- 2013-01-16
Re: Don't worry, be happy! -- juanisaac -- 2013-01-17
Re: Don't worry, be happy! -- San Migs -- 2013-01-16
Re: Don't worry, be happy! -- juanisaac -- 2013-01-17
Re: Don't worry, be happy! -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-18
Re: Don't worry, be happy! -- San Migs -- 2013-01-17
Re: Don't worry, be happy! -- foxy -- 2013-01-15
Re: Don't worry, be happy! -- San Migs -- 2013-01-16
Re: Don't worry, be happy! -- Mancunian -- 2013-01-15
Re: Don't worry, be happy! -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-15
Re: Don't worry, be happy! -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-15
Re: On hacking from the outside -- foxy -- 2013-01-14
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Mancunian -- 2013-01-14
Re: On hacking from the outside -- foxy -- 2013-01-15
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Yas -- 2016-09-03
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Mancunian -- 2013-01-15
Re: On hacking from the outside -- foxy -- 2013-01-15
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-16
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-20
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-16
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-20
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-20
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-20
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-20
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-22
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-22
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-22
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-22
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-23
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-23
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-22
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-22
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-28
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-29
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-22
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Mancunian -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-17
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-19
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-20
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-20
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-20
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-20
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-19
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-19
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-20
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-20
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-22
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- San Migs -- 2013-01-21
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Mancunian -- 2013-01-17
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-17
Re: On hacking from the outside -- foxy -- 2013-01-17
Re: On hacking from the outside -- foxy -- 2013-01-17
Re: On hacking from the outside -- Dragonized -- 2013-01-17
Re: On hacking from the outside -- ASTF -- 2013-01-17
Re: On hacking from the outside -- foxy -- 2013-01-16
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