Perhaps you can be more specific dragonized. Where on this topic about the bureacratic procedures and options for foreigners having children and the nationality of those children have I provided a strawman argument? What is the scam that I'm playing?

It seems that I've provided you with plenty of personal experience based on decisions that I have had to make in regards to having a child while living in china. Even if you think my personal experience on the matter is irrelevant I've also provided you with links to the information page of the British embassy that verifies what I've said. Is this information not relevant? Is the British embassy providing strawman arguments or are they involved in some scam to hoodwink you and San migs?

In the interest of fairness I did try to find the equivalent information on the US embassy site about a child being born in china to one US citizen and one Chinese citizen but it is not there. I can only speculate that this is because while the US does recognize the right to dual nationality it does not encourage it. Here is a passage from the US department of State

The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

You clearly show an interest or else you would not need to respond, and that interest is one of covering up more important issues to talk about and focus on less important, superficial things which will make yourself look better.

If you'd like to post about something else then by all means start a new thread. If I feel it's some I'd like to talk about then I will. I'm sorry if this topic bores you and that you don't have much to contribute but it seems that you are driving this thread along just as much as I am.

Because I can give better information

You've provided an example of something that happened to a friend of yours 24years ago. As I stated before, I have taken this example at face value. Perhaps it is of use to the discussion. I asked you to provide more details regarding how your friend managed to get their child onto a passport without things like a birth certificate which you claimed he didn't have. You decided to ignore that question. I don't think you can really claim that you've provided 'better' information. Perhaps limited, incomplete or anecdotal would be a more accurate description.

your best leverage is that of personal attacks on others? I have held back from calling you names with my recent posts and tried to talk to you on an equal level. What have you done except start calling people more names and use your own dirty methods as justification

You do have a penchant for playing the victim when things aren't going your way. If my dirty methods are of providing information based on genuine, recent experience of these bureacratic procedures and backing it up evidence from government institutions then I guess yes, I'm guilty of that. That you keep denying these things and making yourself look silly is not my fault.