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Dragonized - 2013-06-26
In response to Re: Huizhou University (Anne)

You don't need experience something to know if its good or bad, but you do need facts and evidence.

Well, I don't know about other reviews, but regarding Huizhou University there were some pictures posted that showed the state of living that the former teacher who worked there went through. As for other reviews, even if sometimes the language is a bit jumbled you still have details regarding interactions between the former employer and the teacher that you cannot have unless you were personally involved.

The problem with this website is its impossible to judge what's real and what's fake.

I certainly feel that for me to post regularly on here, I feel strongly about the state of the ESL industry in general and how many problems there are. With others they have their mind set on finding mostly good news because that is how we are conditioned to believe that most things in society are actually good and there isn't too much to worry about. But there are always entities that are exceptions, whether they be exceedingly good or exceedingly bad. What is being discussed on here falls into the latter category.

The bigger problem is that when people come here saying ANYTHING good, the negative nancy's assume it's fake.

I can easily replace "good" in your sentence with "bad" and "negative" with "positive" and you would have most discussion boards like Dave's ESL Cafe. Most of the news devoted to China veer on putting a positive spin on how things are in that country. Sites like chinasmack flat out post anti-foreigner articles which would never be allowed on here. You just happen to have visited a site that has a group of regular posters with differing opinions than from maybe most of what you have seen. If you do want to read the posts on here, you should have an open mind and be prepared for different opinions from what you are used to.

The only truth that's accepted here is what's bad about places to work, there is no positive truth.

There is no need to talk about "positive truth" so much on here because the good places will not have negative reviews. All you need to do is google the place and see if there are complaints, something you can do yourself.

This leads me to believe that these negative nancy's are either A) incompetent employees that have been fired.

Your own name calling certainly doesn't bode any trust, as that in itself can be called childish by others who would disagree with you. As for being fired, if you have a manager who is alcoholic, vindictive, immature, and maybe racist of course being fired from a place such as that cannot be something that can be used as defamation against your character. Certainly, there are many expats working as teachers who have alcoholic problems.

B) Stupid FTs that have been scammed or cheated due to ignorance.

Wow! You sound like you know all about the intricate workings of how to cheat and scam, because that is why it has never happened to you and it will never happen to you? Any good person can be cheated and scammed easily, especially if it is the first time they are working in that country. So you are saying that the tens of thousands of scam artists (many of them westerners working in cahoots with the local scumbags who do this sort of pretend "business) they get off scot clean if they do whatever they do and the teachers who are the victims of this deserve whatever they get? What makes you think there should be such an UNEQUAL relationship in this business? Business should be fair, reciprocal, and professional. Maybe that is something you missed.

C) People who are working for their own private agendas. Post negative things about one company so another looks better...

If there are any agendas that have been consistently stated on here, it would be that ALL private companies who do ESL in some countries like south korea and china should be outlawed and put out of business. This hardly sounds like an agenda by people who work for big corporations. If I really was a high salaried, corporate lackey type who made money off the backs and sweats of ESL teachers I would not post on here for that might threaten my own revenue livelihood. Of course, consciousness at knowing what I did was wrong might also play a part in that too.

Messages In This Thread
Huizhou University -- Greg -- 2013-06-23
Re: Huizhou College PRETENDING to be a University -- Look at the darker side, since there ain't a bright one -- 2013-09-07
Re: Huizhou College PRETENDING to be a University -- Rush Hour -- 2013-11-13
Re: Huizhou College PRETENDING to be a University -- Legality and Professionalism -- 2013-11-13
Re: Huizhou University -- Regina -- 2013-07-01
Re: Huizhou University -- John O'Shei -- 2013-06-25
Re: Huizhou University -- Greg -- 2013-06-26
"Greg" - pretend native speaker.... -- Explorer -- 2013-06-27
Re: Huizhou University -- John O'Shei -- 2013-06-27
Re: Huizhou University -- Greg -- 2013-06-29
Re: Huizhou University -- MikeK -- 2013-06-27
Re: Huizhou University -- Greg -- 2013-06-27
Re: Huizhou University -- MikeK -- 2013-06-27
First class, luxury accommodation for foreign professors at Huizhiou University -- [poster] -- 2013-06-27
Re: First class, luxury accommodation for foreign professors at Huizhiou University -- MikeK -- 2013-06-27
Re: First class, luxury accommodation for foreign professors at Huizhiou University -- John O'Shei -- 2013-06-27
Re: Huizhou University -- Beelzebub -- 2013-06-26
Re: Huizhou University -- Luckily Escaped from Huizhou College -- 2013-11-08
Re: Huizhou University -- Dragonized -- 2013-11-12
Re: Huizhou University -- Bored -- 2013-11-12
Re: Huizhou University -- Legality and Professionalism -- 2013-11-12
Re: Huizhou University -- Dragonized -- 2013-11-12
Re: Huizhou University -- Bored -- 2013-11-12
Re: Huizhou University -- John O'Shei -- 2013-11-12
Re: Huizhou University -- Dragonized -- 2013-11-12
Re: P.P.S. -- Dragonized -- 2013-11-12
Re: P.P.S. -- Bored -- 2013-11-12
Re: P.P.S. -- Dragonized -- 2013-11-12
Re: Huizhou University -- Dragonized -- 2013-11-12
Re: Huizhou University -- Legality and Professionalism -- 2013-11-12
Re: Hahaha your point being...? -- Dragonized -- 2013-11-12
Re: Huizhou University -- Dragonized -- 2013-11-12
Re: Huizhou University -- John O'Shei -- 2013-11-08
Re: Huizhou University -- Dragonized -- 2013-06-29
Re: Huizhou University -- MikeK -- 2013-06-27
Re: Huizhou University -- Beelzebub -- 2013-06-25
Re: Huizhou University -- Anne -- 2013-06-24
Re: Huizhou University -- MikeK -- 2013-06-24
Re: Huizhou University -- MikeK -- 2013-06-24
Re: Huizhou University -- Dragonized -- 2013-06-26
Re: Huizhou University -- Beelzebub -- 2013-06-24
Re: Huizhou University -- John O'Shei -- 2013-06-24
Re: Huizhou University -- Beelzebub -- 2013-06-24
Re: Huizhou University -- John O'Shei -- 2013-06-25
Re: Huizhou University -- Beelzebub -- 2013-06-25
Re: Huizhou University -- Beelzebub -- 2013-06-24
Re: Huizhou University -- Anne -- 2013-06-25
Re: Huizhou University -- MikeK -- 2013-06-26
Re: Huizhou University -- Beelzebub -- 2013-06-26
Re: Huizhou University -- Dragonized -- 2013-06-26
Re: Huizhou University -- Anne -- 2013-06-26
Re: An example of a TROLL -- Dragonized -- 2013-06-29
Re: Huizhou University -- Beelzebub -- 2013-06-25
Re: Huizhou University -- Dragonized -- 2013-06-26
Re: Huizhou University -- Anne -- 2013-06-26
Re: Huizhou University -- Dragonized -- 2013-06-29
Re: Huizhou University -- Beelzebub -- 2013-06-26
Re: Huizhou University -- Dragonized -- 2013-06-29
Re: Huizhou University -- MikeK -- 2013-06-23
Re: Huizhou University -- juanisaac -- 2013-06-25
Re: Huizhou University -- The Crow Calling the Raven Black -- 2013-06-25
Re: Huizhou University -- Greg -- 2013-07-28
Re: Huizhou University -- juanisaac -- 2013-07-29
Re: Huizhou University -- juanisaac -- 2013-06-26
Re: Huizhou University -- MikeK -- 2013-06-26
Re: Huizhou University -- MikeK -- 2013-06-25
Re: Huizhou University -- John O'Shei -- 2013-06-23
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