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Yingwen Laoshi - 2006-02-14
In response to Fight the mindset - Teachers discussion (Rheno747)

Hi Rheno

You're certainly not the only one in Asia who sees it. I can see from my experience where you're coming from. In virtually all the schools I've taught in in China, the only thing the leaders are concerned about is if the students like you, and you keep them happy and entertained. They don't seem to care if the students actually learn anything. You don't really need to be able to teach to be successful here, but just be able to entertain. How I see it (although I certainly don't agree with it), business comes before education here. It seems to be a Pan-Asian thing!

I don't think it's the fault of the FTs (foreign teachers) though. I feel entertainer teachers are a SYMPTOM of the environment we teach in. The CAUSE of the problem starts higher up with the managers and owners of the schools. Many of them couldn't care less what goes into the student's heads. They are only concerned with what comes out of their pockets, and the more the better. It's the mindset of the owners and managers of the schools that are the major problem. Only when they realize that the best way to have a successful business is to work on creating a good product, will we see some change for the better in the students. I don't blame some of the FTs for going along with this charade. They would probably rather have a quiet, trouble free life rather than be banging their heads against a brick wall. Why try to fight a system you can't change? I honestly see their point, although I don't agree with it.

Rheno, Get out of there, and find a school where you will be given more freedom in the classroom. One thing I have found good and enjoyable is the fact that in most schools in China, I've had virtually total freedom in the classroom. I've always been given textbooks, but also the option of using my own curriculum if I want to. The textbooks have only been issued as back up or to give ideas. If you can't find schools like that in Thailand, hop over here to China and get a job at a public school. You'll find that the freedom will help you to deal with the symptoms of a bad system, much better.

I'm fortunate at my college, because the leaders here actually want us to encourage the students to be autonomous. They also insist on students attending every class, and being punctual. They require us to set regular homework, and useful valid exam assignments that will encourage students to use their initiative and learn practical skills that will help them in the future. That kind of thinking is unusual in China though, so I count myself lucky to be teaching here.

During my time in China I've learnt to be realistic. I realize that most schools only care about money, that education often takes a back seat, and that many children are lazily pushed through the system without learning how to apply themselves or gain any practical knowledge. Remember even most adults don't really like to study. Who does? It's human nature to always look for the short cut. We all want to better ourselves. If I could find a quick legal way to get a masters degree I would take it. How many people can honestly say that they loved to study at school, were always studious and never slacked off? I know I can't! I personally expect and almost DEMAND 100% effort from my students. I hate it if students slack off, yet I know that NOBODY will study anything if they can't see any benefit! I certainly wouldn't.

I try to reason with students. With college/ university students it's a bit easier. I get them to think about their futures and the benefits of actually learning something, and to not just think about passing exams and getting degrees. I also used a class grading system last semester where the whole class would lose marks if students didn't attend, were late, behaved badly or didn't participate. I told every class at the beginning of the semester that the class with the highest marks would win a prize. This meant any student slacking would be subject to pressure from their peers. I had an excellent response from every class last semester. My grading system may not necessarily have been the reason. They may just be responsible (not rich) students who want to make the most of their education, but I thought it would be good to have that system in place at least for back up.

I think there's no harm in trying to make my classes as interesting, challenging, and as stimulating as I can. Also there's no harm in using humour, being friendly and putting a bit of your personality into the class. I think trying to put some life into the subject is helpful too. Even politicians realize the short attention spans people have these days and pepper their speeches with humor. They even use humor during summit meetings where important decisions that affect the lives of many people are made. If they can use humor in those circumstances... In an ideal world we could probably just teach, but this is not an ideal world, and Asia is by far not an ideal place to teach ESL. We need to be realistic, and to be aware of the environment we're in. I believe in really teaching the students, and expect them to regularly attend on time, fully participate, behave well and try their best to learn something in EVERY lesson. I will use nearly "ANY means necessary? (Malcolm X) to get them to do this, usually using the carrot method. At the same time though I try to understand if some of them slack off a bit sometimes. It's human to do so!

Some teachers may disagree with using award systems to motivate students, saying that students need to be trained to study in other ways, but as I said before, in an ideal world... If it gets students to reach our fundamental aim of learning adequately, then I believe the end justifies the means. I think the key is getting them to think about the benefits of really studying and learning, and in us FTs finding schools that will at least give us enough freedom in the classroom to obtain some real results. I don't think there is much else we can do!

Rheno, it's always good to read your posts and hear from a teacher who really wants his students to learn and prosper. I find your posts stimulating. Keep posting. Get out of there man, and find a school that gives you more freedom in the classroom. You will find it will help you to deal with the symptoms of an often bad system a lot better! All the best!

Ying

Messages In This Thread
Fight the mindset - Teachers discussion -- Rheno747 -- 2006-02-07
motivated students - Teachers discussion -- frank andrews -- 2006-04-06
You're not the Only One - Teachers discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2006-02-14
It's good to know..... - Teachers discussion -- Rheno747 -- 2006-02-15
There's Hope Yet! - Teachers discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2006-02-15
You hit it dead on - Teachers discussion -- Rheno747 -- 2006-02-15
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