As per your request, would not expect one of drags anytime soon though, hahahaha

I'm a bit long in the tooth these days though, hahahaha, all good fun!!!

San migs is a good writer but under 40.dragon is abou turnoi's age,a yank.

Just shocked myself.with a name like spector you should look like this hahaha!can we have a pic of you and drags please. Lets not be shy chaps.

I hosted another poster San Migs 2 years ago when I worked in Amoy. Interestingly enough, he was posting under the moniker of C[edited]T[edited] earlier this year. Oddly, you also starting posting around the same time when SMGS was using the CT identity. Does manipulating someone sound like fun?

By amoy, I take it you mean Xiamen?

Not sure who this san migs poster is who you are on about, never met said poster I'm into my 40s.

Well we all manipulate....what's your agenda against the chinese for example?

What's your point? I hosted another poster San Migs 2 years ago when I worked in Amoy. Interestingly enough, he was posting under the moniker of C[edited]T[edited] earlier this year. Oddly, you also starting posting around the same time when SMGS was using the CT identity. Does manipulating someone sound like fun?

But you told me a lot in this post.

Not me...but let me guess, you taught in Amoy and are back there, or are considering it. Now am I wide of the mark?

I've breeded!

The thing is dragon poster (are you welsh by chance?), that the longer you leave it until you breed the more a bitter and lonely person you become. Spilling your seed on the ground is not becoming of an asian american male in his 30s, there must be something we don't know, yu fa is trying to understand and help, but until the cat comes out of the closet so to speak, he and I cannot possibly help you any further. Do you see what we are driving at dear boy?

You mentioned bigotry in one of your posts. Bigotry includes the assumption of someone saying something unreasonable. I think that readers may find the same in many of your posts that you have made not only recently. There are some quotes below from your texts to illustrate that:

I do not quite understand why on an ESL forum people need to make such a big deal about whether someone is married or single. It seems like just another strawman. The trolls try to attack emotionally so to distract from their own lack of intellect and intelligence. Quite hilarious!

First, there is nothing hilarious to it if someone makes this topic an issue, although in itself it is pointless and does not say a lot about the person that is unmarried. Second, it does not necessarily follow that such a statement about an unmarried person really has the intention to “attack emotionally”. Third, it is also wrong to infer from that they “distract from their own lack of intellect and intelligence”. In my opinion, you are doing exactly that what you accuse that poster of.

Take for example Afghan warlords or Saudi Sheikhs with multiple wives (many of whom are considered underage by modern Human Rights Standards) will have successfully breeded many children by the time they have reached half your age (assuming you are retired by now).

http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/forum/index.pl?read=101893

Americans in general have the reputation of being insensitive to other cultures and of perceiving things that are alien to them in an ethnocentric manner. This may be an overgeneralisation that does not really apply in all individual cases; in case of your input, however, it does seem to apply. First, get your facts right before you make such a sweeping statement about “Afghan warlords and Saudi Sheiks”. They are not the only ones to “blame” in that respect; many men in the West have no problem to do the same, and often act irresponsably while “Afghan warlords and Saudi Sheiks” tend to take care of the children and the wives they had sexual intercourse with while Western men mostly do not. Poorer people who cannot afford to maintain multiple wives and bringinp up their children are discouraged and urged ti refrain from the same. This is one of the basics in Islam-based Law. Second, it is also unreasonable to only focus on Islamic-Oriental cultures in this respect. In many native cultures in Africa, polygamy was very common. If this was the case, the “multiple wives” and their children were not left to themselves but well taken care of.

This post has been made to simply state some basic facts, no personal offence intended. Neither is this intended to be a judgment for or against polygamy.

This is an ESL Forum, not a Brag-about-breeding forum. If you or the other troll's claim to credibility is that you successfully breeded, then there are plenty of people in this world who have you beat hands down. Take for example Afghan warlords or Saudi Sheikhs with multiple wives (many of whom are considered underage by modern Human Rights Standards) will have successfully breeded many children by the time they have reached half your age (assuming you are retired by now). So by your "standards" of judging a person's character you belong somewhere on the totem pole of being below a Terrorist Sympathizer and slightly above lifeless shrubs.

Dragonized, I f**king love you, lol.

Anyway, half of us are actually trying to not breed accidentally. It's easier than you think, if that twit really wanted to help Silverboy reproduce himself in sprog form, he'd get a needle and put holes in his johnnies, not give unwanted, unsolicited shit advice about how to play 'f**k-a-farmer' on this board.

1. Why would his sexual orientation be of any importance?

2. China isn't the only country that has nice women, you know?

On the contrary,you and him are kindred spirits and it is high time you both made up. You have identical beliefs and I dont knoe for sure but probably both retired an slightly set in your ways.He does appear to be desperate to get on your good books again. Do not make hom grovel.He clearly accepts that he was unintentionally to blame for giving out information on you. I will try and rason with you both-okay!?

Hating predators and sociopaths who exploit others isn't "hating chinese". Are you saying that the Identity of being Chinese means being an anti-social, exploitative, and cheating person who cannot know what Love is?

Your post shows a lot about what is wrong with your society. You deflect the issues of injustice, corruption, cheat, and exploitation and attack the person's emotions. By doing this, you show that it is you yourself who do not like Chinese folk because you think all of this vice is perfectly okay. But I do find that in real life it is often the Chinese who hate other Chinese or people of Chinese heritage the most.

You seem to haver a special problem with them for reasons that may be hard to understand for outsiders, but it looks like some kind of obsession.

you are much nearer the mark on this point, than he will care to admit. There is rumour he fled many a job for being unable to get along with both chinese and western staff, but only rumour mind, I'll refrain from posting anymore until some other posters confirm said rumours.

You and the poster I just answered have much in common.

I could not care less if you welcomed me back or not. You have no credibility. Never have, never will. You do serve as a great warning sign though.

It is very obvious from your posts past and present that you seem to hate everything Chinese. You can hate certain type of people for what they are doing and how they behave, and you can perhaps hate institutions, traditions, and perhaps power structrures. To hate "the Chinese" is quite another thing; it indeed comes across as an obsession.

Here is my response to you:

Dragonized, with all respect due to you - you obviously see a "white entitlement"
where there is none. All of us have our petception of China, the Chinese oand Chinese
culture -whether right or wrong. You seem to haver a special problem with them for
reasons that may be hard to understand for outsiders, but it looks like some kind of
obsession.

What makes me an "insider" compared to "outsiders"? Who are the outsiders? This is a case of ME telling someone(1 individual) who is way out of their depth on a subject they know very little about to piss off because they have no authority to lecture me on these types of things. It would be like a non-native English speaker who studied English for 1 week and then going to England or the USA and telling native English speakers how to speak the English language. There is no "special" problem on my part, this is what you choose to focus on, and it makes you sound rather defensive. If I may ask, why are you so obsessed with finding anything that makes you feel like you are "outside" of things? Psychologically that would be called Projection where you judge others of possessing faults and/or insecurities that you in fact possess.

For the bit on Chinese vs. whites - the Chinese have a right to be proud of what they are as
individual human beings like any white person from the US, France or Spain.
Denying the Chineseness of a Chinese can make him or her a bit psychotic, and it is much
better to accept people in the way they are. For matters of behavior and what they are
doing - right ort wrong - it is an entirely different matter.

If you are not Chinese or of Chinese heritage, and you are White then this statement you made is indicative of entitlement in and of itself. You are not of this tribe, but you feel like you can be the authority on the standard of what makes someone Chinese or not Chinese. In a globalizing world people can have a foot in two or even several different cultures. Identities change, and new tribes emerge as signs of progress. There certainly is no "denying the chineseness" of someone on this forum, if anything there is what seems like a caste-like state in the mindsets of some posters especially the older ones of what you are born into is what you will be for the rest of your life. If an American 300 years ago can claim new tribal status as having descended from different lineages of Western Europe, then you certainly cannot judge someone becoming psychotic merely because of a label. Further, you might want to look at yourself and think if they will respect you enough to take you seriously. If anything, denying the CHANGE in a person rather than pigeonholing them under a LABEL will make them psychotic, and shows your own inherent Racism, no offense.

White is a colour like black, red, brown etc. That's all there is to it.

It is actually a lot more complicated than that. Even in modern academia the issue of Race as being genetically indicative of where people will go and do in life is still brought forth as an important topic. Race carries influence across many areas of life. You yourself are affected by the issue of race as you felt my post that was not directed at you to be important enough to respond to. It also after all is the foundation of justifying the superiority in certain aspects of western culture over asiatic culture as seen on this forum, and you are a beneficiary to that which is most likely why my post hit a nerve in you.

One last point: you sound like another regular poster on here who has for the most part posted under one name consistently for the last 8 years or so. I think you are covering yourself because of some things that happened a couple years back and you are hoping I do not see it is you. I do think that if you wanted to work out the mistakes you made, you are better off being honest about who you really are. A real, open discussion should contain honesty and you are not helping your own case by weaseling your way around.

Dragonized, with all respect due to you - you obviously see a "white entitlement" where there is none. All of us have our petception of China, the Chinese oand Chinese culture -whether right or wrong. You seem to haver a special problem with them for reasons that may be hard to understand for outsiders, but it looks like some kind of obsession.

For the bit on Chinese vs. whites - the Chinese have a right to be proud of what they are as individual human beings like any white person from the US, France or Spain. Denying the Chineseness of a Chinese can make him or her a bit psychotic, and it is much better to accept people in the way they are. For matters of behavior and what they are doing - right ort wrong - it is an entirely different matter.

White is a colour like black, red, brown etc. That's all there is to it.

Focusing on ancestors can mean nothing new to offer, but not merely mean that at all; especially this time of year this focusing on the dead can be the means of reinforcing the living families. In fact that is the case. All very positive I find.

We're all perfectly happy to insult the liars and the crooks of the ESL world and those that suck up to them. Even if that make us 'bitter.'

Calling somebody 'bitter' is the most pathetic way of trying to destroy somebody's credibility.

A very classless Chinese way of doing things.

Some other tactics are very Chinese indeed... For example, putting somebody down for coming for a poorer, lower class (working class means nothing to them) family or background. Western people don't usually do that and in fact many of our successful and most celebrated people have quite a few 'rags to riches' stories to tell.

But Chinese people will always focus upon their ancestors, where as western people just don't give a shit about it.

Chinese wumao people may feel that their traditional culture is more noble and superior to ours. It actually was superior in a way, just a shame that the commies destroyed it all, hey?

Also, I'd rather be 'old and bitter' and then hang on with the younger newbie pricks that are no better than glorified tourists.