Don
- 2015-12-17
"In China, the solution is to NEVER enter the country for employment as a foreign teacher without a Z visa in your passport. Schools, or individuals, that advise you to do otherwise are unable or unwilling to provide you with the necessary documentation."
A generalisation in my view! The HK visa run is still doable. It depends on the province!
martin hainan
- 2015-12-17
In China, the solution is to NEVER enter the country for employment as a foreign teacher without a Z visa in your passport.
Schools, or individuals, that advise you to do otherwise are unable or unwilling to provide you with the necessary documentation.
The current regulatory environment in many provinces and districts in China makes it difficult for 'schools' to attract enough qualified teachers that will pass PSB review. The solution for many 'schools' is to advise you to enter the country without a Z visa in an effort to coerce you to work illegally at YOUR risk.
Other schools will make do with fewer foreign teachers and/or work harder to attract FTs already employed in China.
This is not a "chicken & egg" problem. In fact, it is a method for the applicant to identify legal and ethical employers.
San Migs
- 2015-12-17
This is a good post, that could easily be applied to China.
Many schools will say they prefer teachers IN China, but then good luck getting a work visa if you never had one before, or if you entered on a tourist visa. In english, I called this, shooting themselves in the feet..........they want teachers, but their recruitment/visa procedures are a joke, both inside China and abroad.
In applying for foreign ESL jobs, there is a chicken & egg problem.
When an ESL teacher looks for an area where there are jobs, he sends out applications.
But the schools will say they only consider an application if the applicant is already in the country.
But the applicant wants to know if there is a job BEFORE he spends the money to go to the new country.
Ideally he would be hired from abroad and have a job waiting or at least he could get a good idea of his chances and of the market
So which comes first the chicken or the egg: he will only go to the country if there is a job, or he can only apply for a job if he is in the country.
There must be some way to find out if it looks like a good bet the school will hire the applicant before he has to go to the time and expense going to the country
Does anybody know a way to work this problem out so both the school hiring manager and the applicant are satisfied -- a win-win situation?
Has anybody faced this problem and solved it?