arrrgh Alec
- 2016-02-25
He hates training centres after the first one fired him after 6 months.
How do ye know this fable then?
BinderDundat
- 2016-02-25
, such as you and I, who have had rewarding experiences assisting in the learning process of Chinese students
Doctor Turnjoy did NOT have a good experience teaching. Not at all. He hates training centres after the first one fired him after 6 months. I dont blame him but he's countered the bad experience by pretending to be superior to all those who stayed longer and had more success.
BinderDundat
- 2016-02-24
Well there are people who have good experiences. That should be said. And like anything in life people might complain about the bad experiences or 'downs' but that doesn't mean they aren't having 'ups' and good times too.
I'd suggest that being married.. and i mean anyone who is married to anyone of any culture... its just marriage thats a drag. Its an added responsibility. Its an added 'downer' for men. Its just an added burden and then again there are 'ups' to that too. Its not all bad all the time either.
Caring
- 2016-02-24
Let's address the divergence from Martin Hainan who I feel ought to be directed here.
Regardless whom you're replying to, this is a piece to follow. Since your original post is somewhat suggestive, your primary commentary may be interpreted in ways beyond your debatable intentions.My remarks are always directed to the individuals who DO NOT post on this forum, readers who
are considering teaching in China. As you point out, critiques of schools that are
problem employers are certainly valuable contributions to readers of this forum.
Having read some contributions retrospectively, I wouldn't be so assertive on this issue. However, being you now, I'd have to back pedal somewhere to keep respect of others. By the same token, I admit to be contributing my thoughts on the Chinese society, government and economic development that all demonstrate signs to be disliked. Claiming that posters' views on the issues are "poisonous" or "ill-informed", you seek to be cleared as it seems. Well, why don't you bring some examples of the toxic and lacking adequate knowledge posts either here or in a new topic?But on a daily basis this forum's contributors voice misogynist views of Chinese women,
racist commentary on Chinese society and 'Orientalist' perspectives of China's economic
development and government. I do support their right to express their views, however
poisonous and ill-informed I may consider them to be.
On the contrary, I don't see so many foreigners in the nation and I read somewhere there are fewer foreign travelers and teachers today than before. Further more, my worthwhile experiences are truly outweighed by the outright disrespect for the profession of foreign teacher whom most Chinese worshipped 20 years ago, and then by the shameless xenophobia that is intensifying everyday. Most often, I try not to blame the people as I am well aware of their lacking upbringing, but I do reserve my rights to point to the sources of the evil. Anyhow, to give you the benefit of doubt, I may be the only one of few with such degrading experiences as there probably are the other 600 000 foreigners in China today that are as "happy" as you are.But there are many foreigners in China, such as you and I, who have had rewarding experiences
assisting in the learning process of Chinese students and have enjoyed our life in
China, respecting its people and culture, while laboring cheerfully to navigate the
society's growing pains. Not surprisingly, most teachers who are happy in China do not
venture to contribute to a forum where their positive comments are subject to attack.
Although I agree that directing attacks at fellow users with such comments is reprehesible, I find it hard to connect with your suspiciously glowing approach on the board. Anyway, I'd have a lot more positive to add to forums about China in late 1990s than today, but again that's just me as you would probably say.Readers considering teaching in China are entitled to positive and negative information.
Contributors that choose to label messengers of positive information about China as
'race traitors' or 'wumaos' or various vulgar homophobic British argot for collaborator
have their own psychic damage to project. Their whining is perhaps worthy of our pity,
but it is of no value to prospective teachers of English in China.
San Migs
- 2016-02-24
Agreed. I have been wanting to hear about other teachers good experiences in other asian countries for some time now. But it does not seem to be happening. Certainly seems to be a lot of FT's in China or who have been veterans of China on these boards....many with chinese wives, that much is beyond doubt!!!!!
Paul Greene
- 2016-02-24
The problem is that you are, or have become, a propaganda mouthpiece on this site. If I was a moderator on here I would ban you. This is supposed to be an ESL site, not a place to promote China and it's, according to me, sick and twisted culture. Yes, I notice that there have been posters on here criticizing China and it's people, it's women. They have every right to do so. This is NOT the place for you to promote your pro-China agenda. This is not a wumao site, it should not be political. You are a troll, go somewhere else if you don't want to read criticism of China.
martin hainan
- 2016-02-24
Dr., I certainly recognize and respect your balanced portrayal of China. And, like you, I have often expressed my criticism of the FT English industry in China, a concern that is specific to the foreign teachers that contribute to this forum.
My remarks are always directed to the individuals who DO NOT post on this forum, readers who are considering teaching in China. As you point out, critiques of schools that are problem employers are certainly valuable contributions to readers of this forum.
But on a daily basis this forum's contributors voice misogynist views of Chinese women, racist commentary on Chinese society and 'Orientalist' perspectives of China's economic development and government. I do support their right to express their views, however poisonous and ill-informed I may consider them to be.
But there are many foreigners in China, such as you and I, who have had rewarding experiences assisting in the learning process of Chinese students and have enjoyed our life in China, respecting its people and culture, while laboring cheerfully to navigate the society's growing pains. Not surprisingly, most teachers who are happy in China do not venture to contribute to a forum where their positive comments are subject to attack.
Readers considering teaching in China are entitled to positive and negative information. Contributors that choose to label messengers of positive information about China as 'race traitors' or 'wumaos' or various vulgar homophobic British argot for collaborator have their own psychic damage to project. Their whining is perhaps worthy of our pity, but it is of no value to prospective teachers of English in China.