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#1 Parent Former FT in China - 2016-07-08
Re China

"And since the new rules state that the degree MUST be verified in the country of origin, how
exactly do you plan on getting a fake degree verified?

And just as an aside, I am always wondering what disastrous choices people have managed to
make in their lives that teaching illegally in a foreign country seems to be their only
employment option.
"

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/living-on-$2-a-day/7574166

Please listen.

And as another aside, I am wondering why America is such a disastrous developed country for so many of its impoverished citizens? I can appreciate why some Americans prefer to teach illegally in China to remaining in America in poverty or relative poverty.

As I've said before, there have been laws introduced, but is there rule of law country-wide? We will see. I don't think you need to get riled about that poster, unless you're a Chinese. China ain't the States, after all!

Let me wish that poster the best of luck in the future. Finally, I advise everyone to follow the visa regulations.

#2 Parent Connie - 2016-07-08
Re China

http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/China/index.pl?read=287353

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"And since the new rules state that the degree MUST be verified in the country of origin, how
exactly do you plan on getting a fake degree verified?
"

There seems to be a major discrepancy... LOL!!!

#3 Parent Reilly - 2016-07-08
Re China

And since the new rules state that the degree MUST be verified in the country of origin, how exactly do you plan on getting a fake degree verified?

And just as an aside, I am always wondering what disastrous choices people have managed to make in their lives that teaching illegally in a foreign country seems to be their only employment option.

#4 Parent Odd Bob Job - 2016-07-07
Re China

They should come down heavily on fake degrees. But I understand that you can get fake verification for the price of a carton of fags. Maybe the doctor prints them out in his undisclosed European location? Good cover , sits up all night in shorts with funny hat playing his organ down some iffy beer Keller.

#5 Parent Mike Milken - 2016-07-07
Re China

Never ever heard of any Chinese university verifying a degree, certainly not any training school, don't make me laugh! There is no "new rule". As for Korea, Thailand, Japan, yes, they do, a fake document should not be used in those places.

#6 Parent paul fox - 2016-07-07
Re China

Yes they do. New rules state that all degrees need to be verified in the country of issue.

How do you propose getting around that when using a fake degree?

#7 Parent Former FT in China - 2016-07-06
Re China

Good advice and we need recruiters to pick up on his cv, don't you think?

Absolutely! You're a clever blokw!

Recruiters introduce FTs to Chinese schools, colleges, training centers, kindergartens and universities. Such workplaces run the risk of being heavily fined if they accept bogus teachers, aka 'deechers' either as direct hires or via agents/recruiters.

This board is a website that carries ads placed by recruiters and agents, as does Daves ESL Cafe and other websites. The recruiters advertising on ESLTB are classified as 'profiled', or simply recruiters. This is very good.

It would appear that recruiters and agents are busy supplying Chinese employers with FTs. Nought wrong with that!

#8 Parent PhD teacher - 2016-07-06
Re China

Good advice and we need recruiters to pick up on his cv, don't you think?

#9 Parent Mike Milken - 2016-07-06
Re China

Just get a fake degree. [edited][edited][edited] You can find somewhere better than China, but if you really want to go there the forged degree is the way to go. Nobody checks, nobody cares.

#10 Parent Former FT in China - 2016-07-05
Re China

Hi,
From my understanding that you now need a Degree to teach in China, I have a two year degree
from an University is there way that I can get a teaching job with a two year degree?

Best,
Marty

Post your resume, and await replies!

martypoland@yahoo.com - 2016-07-05
China

Hi,
From my understanding that you now need a Degree to teach in China, I have a two year degree from an University is there way that I can get a teaching job with a two year degree?

Best,
Marty

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