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#1 Parent Former FT in China - 2016-07-28
Re Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

I'm watching the one below. Also 'Geordie' and excellent. Works best for me on vidtome. No buffering problems at all. Not in HD mode.

http://www.primewire.ag/watch-2316543-Inspector-George-Gently-online-free

#2 Parent Former FT in China - 2016-07-28
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-free
You need a VPN for that one? Involves Google.

Nope, u need a chrome browser with adblock or adblock plus. U needn't google.

I use the Chinese 360 browser, the green 'e'. The cloverleaf-shaped multicolored one also works. Both work better than Firefox or Baidu's browsers for me.

U need a well-tuned PC. I'm not watching in HD mode.

Vidzi/vodlocker/sharesix/gorilla/vidtome all work.

#3 Parent PhD teacher - 2016-07-28
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http://www.primewire.ag/watch-2755556-Back-With-The-Boys-Again-Auf-Wiedersehen-Pet-30th-Anniversary-Reunion-online
-free

You need a VPN for that one? Involves Google.

#4 Parent paul fox - 2016-07-28
Re Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

we were talking
English before you all existed.

Difficult to comment on that. I have been told on more than several occasions that I have a reasonably good ability when it comes to mimicking most English accents / dialects. However, really thick Geordie and Glaswegian accents sound like a foreign language to me. I have a lot of trouble understanding them, let alone copying or mimicking them.

That said, I admit that I do love the sound of the thick Geordie accent and I was a huge fan of Auf Weidersein Pet

#5 Parent paul fox - 2016-07-28
Re Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

....even if I did spell it wrong, lol

#7 Parent PhD teacher - 2016-07-28
Re Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

He is entitled to his opinion, and he has given us it. I agree with your opinion, not his. What I will also say is that there is an Aussie who will throw a hissy fit if he reads what that other poster has said. He is well aware of that and is a wind-up merchant.

Way back when, the whole English speaking world (before USA, Australia.....) used to speak English with a Geordie Dialect. Sod what the rest of the world think, we were talking English before you all existed. And nobody is entitled to any other opinion apart from this one based on fact.

http://www.wikihow.com/Talk-Like-a-Geordie

#8 Parent Former FT in China - 2016-07-28
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@FT
He has a point about the 'thick' Aussie accent - it is quite horrible. However, it is mostly spoken by Aboriginal people, most of whom are unlikely to be teaching English anytime soon.

As for the softer Aussie 'twang' and the notorious rising tone at the end of a sentence, perfectly OK IMHO.

I did, however, miss his following sentence prior to my response to him...............

At least a proper well-educated (white)
South African is able to speak something more akin to the Queen's English that your
average Aussie with all of his or her's totally mutated vowels and jingoistic
vocabulary.
..................and that is just laughable !

He is entitled to his opinion, and he has given us it. I agree with your opinion, not his. What I will also say is that there is an Aussie who will throw a hissy fit if he reads what that other poster has said. He is well aware of that and is a wind-up merchant.

#9 Parent paul fox - 2016-07-27
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I couldn't believe my eyes when I read this post by an Aussie making fun of South African
English....

I am English. I was fortunate enough to be born and raised in an area of the Midlands that has quite a neutral accent. I emigrated to Australia a few years ago and became an Aussie citizen too. The Aussie accent you are referring to is also horrible, (we call it 'strayliun), and I agree with most of what you wrote about it. However, from a personal point of view, I find it preferable to the SA accent.

There's also the Kiwi's, (New Zealanders), with their 'fush 'n' chups etc. However, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the South African tongue related to the Dutch language?

I guess my main point is that I (personally) believe that NES, with strong regional or national accents, arguably make it more difficult for ESL students to learn, especially when it comes to 'porking the core'.

#10 Parent paul fox - 2016-07-27
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@FT
He has a point about the 'thick' Aussie accent - it is quite horrible. However, it is mostly spoken by Aboriginal people, most of whom are unlikely to be teaching English anytime soon.

As for the softer Aussie 'twang' and the notorious rising tone at the end of a sentence, perfectly OK IMHO.

I did, however, miss his following sentence prior to my response to him...............

At least a proper well-educated (white)
South African is able to speak something more akin to the Queen's English that your
average Aussie with all of his or her's totally mutated vowels and jingoistic
vocabulary.

..................and that is just laughable !

#11 Parent Former FT in China - 2016-07-27
Re Good Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

Re Paul Fox,

I couldn't believe my eyes when I read this post by an Aussie making fun of South African English....

I mean really ... that is the pot calling the kettle black or as the Spaniards say, the raven is making fun of the crow.

I mean, after all folks, Aussie English is Cockney prisoner English from the dregs of British society who were deported to Botany Bay in the 17th century. It is hardly, truly hardly, of an august lineage.

I cringe when I hear Aussie English, just cringe. At least a proper well-educated (white) South African is able to speak something more akin to the Queen's English that your average Aussie with all of his or her's totally mutated vowels and jingoistic vocabulary.

In the United States and Canada, TV programs from Australia, which are far and few between these days, generally need to carry subtitles because most Yanks and Canucks, a total of about 360 million people, just can't follow them.

Aussie English is not allowed at the United Nations. Official UN translators must carry either a RP or RRP or a standard North American radio English, like the late Peter Jennings.

The Brits often break out laughing at Aussie English and it is the subject of endless jokes and mockeries -- endless. Raise the subject in a pub and just wait for hilarity to break out.

A friend from London told me that in proper (white-folk) South African English, the Capetown version, he could at least hear shades of empire. On the other hand, he told me that in Aussie English, he heard shades of English debtors' prisons from the 17th century.

And again, South African TV programs in North America pass without subtitles.

Waltzing Matilda, Waltzing Matilda, etc., etc. What a national anthem!

Actually, Australia is one of the five English speaking countries from which China, in its wisdom, chooses to draw its FTs from. That's objective, and the situation ON THE GROUND HERE. SA ain't one of them. So, put that piece of objectivity in your pipe and smoke it! Splutter, splutter, LOL!

Get on yer bike, mate, and vanish into the horizon! Don't bother coming back, you plonker. :

#12 Parent Former FT in China - 2016-07-27
Re: Re Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

Awww....an intelligent post. There are so few on this board...

I love reading intelligent posts, the more the better!

So, please, pretty please, enlighten me and other like-minded readers as to which boards I(we) can access to find more than just a few intelligent posts!

Ah, I think you've swept your reply under the rug!

Nes pa? Excuse my crap French. Anyway, still waiting, as are others.

However I, for 1, won't be holding my breath!

LOL!

#13 Parent the_Queens_English - 2016-07-27
Re Good Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

Re Paul Fox,

I couldn't believe my eyes when I read this post by an Aussie making fun of South African English....

I mean really ... that is the pot calling the kettle black or as the Spaniards say, the raven is making fun of the crow.

I mean, after all folks, Aussie English is Cockney prisoner English from the dregs of British society who were deported to Botany Bay in the 17th century. It is hardly, truly hardly, of an august lineage.

I cringe when I hear Aussie English, just cringe. At least a proper well-educated (white) South African is able to speak something more akin to the Queen's English that your average Aussie with all of his or her's totally mutated vowels and jingoistic vocabulary.

In the United States and Canada, TV programs from Australia, which are far and few between these days, generally need to carry subtitles because most Yanks and Canucks, a total of about 360 million people, just can't follow them.

Aussie English is not allowed at the United Nations. Official UN translators must carry either a RP or RRP or a standard North American radio English, like the late Peter Jennings.

The Brits often break out laughing at Aussie English and it is the subject of endless jokes and mockeries -- endless. Raise the subject in a pub and just wait for hilarity to break out.

A friend from London told me that in proper (white-folk) South African English, the Capetown version, he could at least hear shades of empire. On the other hand, he told me that in Aussie English, he heard shades of English debtors' prisons from the 17th century.

And again, South African TV programs in North America pass without subtitles.

Waltzing Matilda, Waltzing Matilda, etc., etc. What a national anthem!

#14 Parent Former FT in China - 2016-07-27
Re Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

Awesome!

In Australia, white South African people are known as 'Yarpies'. This is because they have a tendency to say 'Yar' instead of 'Yes'.

Instead of 'Parking their car', they 'Pork their core' and when buying sheets and pillows they ask for 'bidding' for their 'bid'.

As far as being 'well-adjusted', the only time they are successful in that regard is when they are 6-feet under.

Even crappy training centres are too good for such 'deechers'.

When we try to analyse white South Africans, we should be aware of colonial history in that part of the world. The British empire builders encountered much resistance from the Boers, the Boer Wars. The Boers were white too, and came from Holland or Belgium to settle the Orange Free State, amongst other parts of SA. The Boer language was similar to German, and Germans say 'ya' to mean yes. Inter-racial marriages between Boers and Brits must have taken place as time went on. I think Neil could be the son of such a marriage, and feels he should point out he is well-adjusted to differentiate himself from white Boers, who tend to be farmers who like squaring up to people they dislike.

As for crappy training centres, I wouldn't want my worst enemy to teach there, even if he were a deecher!!

#15 Parent Odd Bob Job - 2016-07-27
Re Good Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

Haha, you must have criticised the Queen's English. He has a Royal Guard.

#16 Parent the_Queens_English - 2016-07-27
Re Good Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

To "Amused",

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#17 Parent paul fox - 2016-07-26
Re Good Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

Awesome!

In Australia, white South African people are known as 'Yarpies'. This is because they have a tendency to say 'Yar' instead of 'Yes'.

Instead of 'Parking their car', they 'Pork their core' and when buying sheets and pillows they ask for 'bidding' for their 'bid'.

As far as being 'well-adjusted', the only time they are successful in that regard is when they are 6-feet under.

Even crappy training centres are too good for such 'deechers'.

#18 Parent Former FT in China - 2016-07-26
Re: Re Good Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

Awww....an intelligent post. There are so few on this board...

I love reading intelligent posts, the more the better!

So, please, pretty please, enlighten me and other like-minded readers as to which boards I(we) can access to find more than just a few intelligent posts!

#19 Parent BeenThere - 2016-07-26
Re: Re Good Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

Awww....an intelligent post.
There are so few on this board...

#20 Parent PhD teacher - 2016-07-26
Re Good Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

First watch this video:https://youtu.be/V9OlMrqp99Y. And then do your due diligence on China: English language centers, China teaching recruiters or recruiting, China teacher attacks, China teacher scam(s), and teaching salaries around the world. Turkey and Thailand are better alternatives.

Turnoi and Silverboy do a lot of good work battling with training centres but I'm sure neither of these worthies would like you to leave for Turkey or Thailand without mentioning that the Islamics in Turkey are showing a growing interest in more militant action, so you could well be one of the first FTs there to be beheaded before contract completion. As for Thailand they seem to have developed a penchant for murdering westerners and/or gang-banging them on picturesque sands. Best to extend one's 'due diligence' perhaps.

If you want to actually survive a miserable time, China could be for you.

#21 Parent amused - 2016-07-26
Re Good Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

Hi to y'all, I am looking for a good language mill/school in Shanghai to start my ESL career off.
There are so many options, I just want a decent salary to live and travel on, medical
insurance and Z visa.
Working for a good employer that supports greenhorn teachers is more important to me than
long holidays.
Any such language mills/schools anyone can recommend?
I have a 4 year degree, 150 hour TEFL certificate and am a well adjusted white South African.

Native speakers say: "Hi y'all". We do not use comma splices. We "start careers"; we do not "start careers off".
"Z visa" requires an article.
No native speaker has used the word "greenhorn" since my grandfather passed.
"Any such.... anyone can... " Mishandled modifiers and modal verbs are the acne of Chinese academic English writing.
There are no well-adjusted white South Africans. And if there were, they would never identify themselves as such.
Reading Chinese employees of private language schools ineptly posing as FT candidates is always entertaining.

#22 Parent Odd Bob Job - 2016-07-26
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Hello Neil
I would be interested in learning from former retired teacher, Turnoi, or any senior poster hoe you would restrict your job search to Shanghai? You need to find recruitment agents specialising in that area. Be a hiding to nothing you trying to approach employers yourself

The kitchen fitter told me not to clear up until tomorrow to give the silicon a chance. Lying bastard! What is the mottled black worktop? What type of stone? Cupboards are maroon. £500 including labour and fan.

#23 Parent Former FT in China - 2016-07-26
Re Good Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

Hi to y'all,

I am looking for a good language mill/school in Shanghai to start my ESL career off.

There are so many options, I just want a decent salary to live and travel on, medical insurance and Z visa.

Working for a good employer that supports greenhorn important to me than long holidays.

Any such language mills/schools anyone can recommend?

I have a 4 year degree,teachers is more 150 hour TEFL certificate and am a well adjusted white South African.

There AREN'T so many options for YOU. Quite the contrary, there are damned few. Why? Firstly, you don't have 2 years of teaching experience. Secondly, you have a South African passport.

I advise you to post your resume in the 'resumes section' of this board. See what transpires. Give it 5 days or so. If nothing positive transpires, re-post the same resume, but this time for 'Good Language Mills/Schools Anywhere in China' .

Incidentally, what do you mean by 'Good Shanghai Language Mills/Schools'? I suggest you replace 'good' by 'reputable'.

In my view, ALL Chinese language mills are disreputable employers!

#24 Parent The CFT Watchers - 2016-07-26
Good Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

First watch this video:https://youtu.be/V9OlMrqp99Y. And then do your due diligence on China: English language centers, China teaching recruiters or recruiting, China teacher attacks, China teacher scam(s), and teaching salaries around the world. Turkey and Thailand are better alternatives.

Neil - 2016-07-26
Good Shanghai Language Mills/Schools

Hi to y'all,

I am looking for a good language mill/school in Shanghai to start my ESL career off.

There are so many options, I just want a decent salary to live and travel on, medical insurance and Z visa.

Working for a good employer that supports greenhorn teachers is more important to me than long holidays.

Any such language mills/schools anyone can recommend?

I have a 4 year degree, 150 hour TEFL certificate and am a well adjusted white South African.

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