Odd Bob Job
- 2016-08-03
Not certain of your meaning, OBJ.
Nevertheless you went on to answer it quite well.
Paul Fox
- 2016-08-03
English is neither learned nor taught during a "12 day summer camp". Money is made
and parents are enabled to avoid parenting.
Yeah, you got that right! We were glorified babysitters as usual !
Paul Fox
- 2016-08-03
And if TEFL -qualified China-seasoned teachers without degrees had taught at your summer camp
how do you think they would have measured up to 'proper' teachers from home? That would
be interesting to have your unbiased opinion on.
Not certain of your meaning, OBJ.
Degrees have no bearing on one's ability to teach, providing the teacher has ESL qualifications. What does a degree in ballroom-dancing or origami have to do with teaching/babysitting brats?
amused
- 2016-08-03
English is neither learned nor taught during a "12 day summer camp". Money is made and parents are enabled to avoid parenting.
In this quasi-educational 'camp' environment, FTs 'skills' are perfectly suited. In fact, FT 'skills' are learned in a similar 'intensive-ineffective' manner.
I trust you made s'mores and told ghost stories.
Odd Bob Job
- 2016-08-03
And if TEFL -qualified China-seasoned teachers without degrees had taught at your summer camp how do you think they would have measured up to 'proper' teachers from home? That would be interesting to have your unbiased opinion on.
I know I'm leaving myself wide open to heaps of abuse from Turnoi and Amused, but I want to share something with you, in all seriousness.
ESL teachers often get a 'bad press' because we're not seen as being 'proper' teachers, especially by people back home.
OK, so there are Turnoi's 'deechers', dancing monkeys etc, but not all of us work in crappy training centres.
I've just finished a 12-day summer camp job at my school. There were 3 x ESL teachers, (including myself), and we are all subject teachers, and 4 'proper' teachers from England. These 4 teachers all work in mainstream British schools and are fully qualified. However, none of them had even a basic TEFL qualification and had never taught ESL before. All 4 of them were completely out-of-their-depth, (by their own admission), and were constantly asking the 3 ESL teachers for help and advice, which we all gave.
I found it to be quite an eye-opener. ESL teachers may not be qualified to teach in NES schools, but without an ESL qualification it seems that even 'proper' teachers find it difficult to teach ESL.
As it turned out they all got through it OK, but I was beginning to wonder how they would have managed if they were working with no qualified ESL teachers at all.
This was my first experience, (as an ESL teacher), sharing classrooms with fully qualified English teachers. On the final day they all said that they couldn't have done it without our help. Maybe we are not so useless after all?