He he he, BeenThere.... you good.

Ya know what I think.... [poster] not only lost his handle. He is a bitter man with high blood pressure who takes pills that make him sexually impotent: his thing, like his handle, was taken away from him (it might still be there but it stays low). Maybe with a failed background in some law enforcement, but he is now a security guard at Walmart because he did a few things....Pot belly. Watches reruns of sitcoms filmed in the 1960's when America was great again. That's the feeling I get when I read his post.

About trump, you wrote: "Less than any other massive international business and never on purpose. " You don't know that at all!!!!!

Wow lol.. you got up and walked into another wall LOL

How would you know Trump has ever had illegal aliens working for him?

Remember you said that. Like you KNEW that! As if you read somewhere documentation of it!!

Because you did. Because Trump hires some very big expensive companies who have HR departments dedicated to that purpose: Finding undocumented workers. It's not just that company that holds records but in this case they have to report this to the government and various official agencies. So we DO KNOW In some cases, those workers names could be looked up and then interviewed by reporters and aired on TV!!

That's how, for an example, 3 different workers absolutely admitted on camera that they did indeed get contacted and informed they'd failed to do the paperwork and were technically working illegally and would need to be 'fired' (so to speak) but in fact, Trumps guys had their paperwork problems sorted out and 2 months later were back to work for Trump.

You: I KNOW Trump had illegal aliens working on his projects!!

Me: yes.

You: YOU DON"T KNOW.. HOW COULD YOU KNOW!!!! lol wow. wow you are a DISASTER LOL

Additionally they pay taxes of various types even when they work in the underground economy.
Utility, sales, transportation taxes, etc.

and they don't pay income taxes, they very often aren't paying the fees (taxation) their American citizens competitors do such as business licences, insurance, city fees and vehicle registrations etc etc (where a great deal of a cities money must come from).

Then, they go the other way on average taking up taxes on welfare benefits and/or various social service programs and schemes like food stamps, employment programs. They take up taxes on processing and then they way way take up tax money on the costs of finding and imprisoning them and if they ever do get deported that costs a huge amount to. (especially bad if they just show up again and again).

the overall bottom line is they cost taxpayers. Its a net loss Keeping in mind, suppose nobody knows what they pay in taxes since they are, after all, undocumented and not in the system as we are obligated to subject ourselves to? Well then you can STILL be certain beyond a doubt simply by comparing them to documented and well researched low-skilled Americans who are in the system, the IRS records. Nearly everyone making less than 30,000 USD is getting in the "Loss" category. Mexico isn't having its doctors, successful businessmen, wealthier families run across the border to live as illegal aliens.

>No doubt they do impact the job market and the availability of better paying jobs with
benefits, but so did slavery and child workers

I don't know you but can I just assume you are totally happy child laborers were totally banned from working in the USA. I might also guess you were totally for the Slave Class being eliminated as well yes?

So, I'm going to go ahead and suppose you'd be consistent with your morality, standards and worldview and also oppose illegal aliens working.

> Employers are the perpetrators and
undocumented workers are the victims.

Nope, both of them are the perpetrators. But then again you may suppose illegal aliens are 'subhumans' or more like 'children' in that they can't be held responsible for their choices (even if they are saying they are willfully choosing it you'd say they can't make that decision for themselves truly so it doesn't count).

>Trump construction projects and hotels have always employed undocumented workers.

Less than any other massive international business and never on purpose. Trump has one of the best companies in charge of worker's and they have a high rate of catching out illegals. In most of those cases the problems were expired documents (they had full and proper work visas but they'd expired or weren't renewed properly). but rarely did Trump's HR pro's catch contractors using blatantly illegal aliens knowingly.

He's simply applying those same standards as President.

Good news: in approx. 2 weeks Trump will, on his first day, give the order to police departments around the USA to capture and deport all known illegal aliens criminals. You will see around 10,000 deportations (cops know exactly where around 90% of them are as we speak).

No, totally wrong: illegal aliens, who are mostly latinos, do not live in inner-city black
ghettos as you wrote.

Hello, yes they do. So do a lot of legal Hispanics. 'Combined with' described the combined problems not 'they combine together' or that Hispanics are 'inside' Black neighborhoods. But having said that, while the Hispanic inner-city 'ghetto' areas are usually adjacent, beside, next door, 2 streets over, connected they are not nearly as separate as Cop TV Shows would have you believe. This intermixing is a bit interesting because its come and gone. In inner city areas in New York the infamous 'Spanish Harlem' (East Harlem as you know being an expert) oddly enough had its gangsters and bad guys surprisingly cooperative with black gangs around Harlem (again, lots of intermixing can be seen even on the very faces of people) but then somewhere around the 90's they do seem to stay very separated and don't clash either.

California is one where blacks and Hispanic's share the same 'ghettos' (enclaves, slums, whatever you want to call these special areas) and encroach and expand. At one point poor blacks were taking over Hispanic areas but that's over as Hispanics (with ever increasing err..'immigrants' arriving) have grown to take over entire once 'black ghettos'

In areas where the two groups are highly represented, such as South Central LA, Compton and Watts, the territory claimed by the two groups of gangs greatly overlapped, with each identifying almost the same particular area as their own, and both respecting each other. In several areas, the Latino and Black gangs intermingled a lot, with several Black and Mexicans speaking with the same accent and doing several of the same activities together (cock fighting, pit bull fighting, etc). Everybody just understood that each territory was their own with respect to their specific race. It was a weird system, but overall it worked and allowed the two races, usually neighbors to each other, to live together.

One of the main reasons you fucked up here is probably because, strange as this seems, a great deal of the racial breakdowns of these high-crime areas DID NOT HAVE A HISPANIC or 'LATINO' category. They have been categorized under 'White' and only recently in the last few years has that been changing. So when you tried to bluff your way through this via 'internet knowledge' you probably did not find any 'Hispanics' in regard to crime stats or who lives inside those high-crime circles.

As a general rule, blacks kill other blacks. Hispanics other Hispanics. this is surprising since the neighborhoods are often side-by-side but not even rigidly divided with plenty of overlap. There is not actual 'black side of the street and across is the hispanic side' yet the criminals, the gangs, the people will create their own 'rules' and divisions.

>And the latino illegal aliens have a crime rate LOWER than the general population

Nope and I wish you could see yourself. "Latino Criminals have crime rate LOWER than the general population". That's what you just told me. People committing a crime have the 'maximum rate' heh. But suppose you don't count the crime they commit everyday they are being illegal.

But no, you are mistakenly trying to use the 'Immigrants' scam stat. You actually screwed it up because you were supposed to say 'Hispanic Immigrants'. That way you hide the illegal aliens inside the LEGAL true immigrants (who often have lower crime rates).

No, if the category is illegal Hispanic immigrants then they most definitely do have a much higher crime rate or really more to the concern - a violent crime rate. That's if you want to use FBI data and not links to 'statistics tricks' that (for example) only select certain categories of crimes, use certain cities etc.

>without many of the services that legal residents get.

Why would they be getting ANY services??

Finally, you need to understand that illegal aliens committing crimes is all unnecessary additional crime. Yes, absolutely true we have enough born and raised American criminals. To get back on topic we already have a very serious crime problem with Black Americans inside those dangerous ghetto circles. that is ALL THE MORE REASON we can't afford to add 20% more criminals from other countries who aren't even supposed to be there in the first place.

Straight Facts indeed. Its just that you didn't know how to read them, what they meant or what they did NOT mean. woops!

I would agree with BeenThere. Can you provide a link please about your first paragraph?

All the factors are perfectly situated in US culture and
society.

That's because the US government are the biggest criminals of all....!

There might be bad people in every country. Criminal element is a separate thing. Think about what contributes to crime. All the factors are perfectly situated in US culture and society. I'm not blaming foreign teachers but maybe the West now collapsing can see what we all the world already see.

There are bad people in EVERY country!