It depends on how the US and South Korean forces go about rapidly destroying all the North Korean artillery pieces already in place. Yes, there will be a level of South Korean casualties, I agree with your analysis to some extent.

This would have to be done extremely swiftly and by surprise and obviously using multiple waves of fast moving fighter jets. Then destroy all their airfields and jets with another wave.

That would be the first thing to do. And very shortly after hit the leadership with those MOABS and assorted bunker busters.

The thing is, does the North Korean military really have a serious nuclear capability? If the answer from the "experts" is yes, then they will need to be
taken out regardless of any collateral damage. We can't risk a nuclear exchange from a man who is totally nuts.

Even if he was assassinated, half of South Korea would also be destroyed.
DPRC's conventional forces have been specifically designed to destroy the South. -
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/graphics/graphic-north-koreas-conventional-arms

Trump should order the launch of a few more of those MOAB's (mother of all bombs ) to get rid of Mr Kim Jong Wanker or whatever his name is and his cronies in P, yang. Obama pussyfooted around with that little goon for way too long. Time to get rid of him and friends once and for all. Assad also needs to go. Western leaders grow some balls and LEAD for a change.

Afghanistan and Syria do not have the wherewithal to annihilate their neighbors.
North Korea could destroy Seoul with conventional weapons in a matter of hours.
I too fear that Combover Don would be willing to sacrifice Seoul in an effort to 'feel the love' of his electorate.
Lord knows his pussygroping soul was sacrificed decades ago.

I do not understand why anyone on this forum would want to help
further the interests of China and it's "government".

SB, if it is 'in the interest' of China to have students that speak English, than every FT in China is furthering that interest to some degree.

The Chinese people that I come in contact with every day for over a decade are often lovely, sometimes annoying, and rarely offensive, just like people I have met in the U.S., Europe, Canada, and everywhere else I have traveled.

I believe that all governments reflect their own interests and/or the interests of the elites.

As Donald's nuclear fleet approaches Korea this weekend, I hope that Little Kim and Combover Don behave like sane adults.

Yup, you are right, I remember reading that PLA officers have to pledge allegiance to defending the CCP cadres only, not the nation or the people.

Ah I see, but wouldn't 'The Cadre' remonstrate "Same difference, we are the nation and the people?!"

Demonstrations are the healthy sign that a society is moving forward in spite of the (often) outdated traditions.

China is very much stuck in its old ways and even though there are some youth out here who try to appear "cool", they are only pretending to be, the appearance is here (hip hop clothing, caps, etc...) but the substance of what makes young people around the world "cool" (to go against traditions, to create their own subculture, etc...) simply does not exist in China. These young guys and girls always fall back in line and end up submitting to their elders' will and views on what life should be, they have no backbone and no guts to stand up to outdated traditions.

So I can't help but laugh when I see young Chinese acting cocky as if they were hip and cool, they are not, just because you wear a NY cap and hoodies does not mean you are cool, the appearance is nothing without the actual substance, period.

In the end, this lack of substance is the very reason why China has zero soft-power which is surprising for a country and an economy of its size, very few people abroad actually think that China is "cool" and most of them are ethnically Chinese.

Several. But love is always worth the risk of pain.
I'm always a very happy individual, Fifi. Thank you for your concern.

Like I said, in the USA and Australia for example we can freely protest. Women can openly
demonstrate in the street without consequence.

That is true. Public demonstrations of protest are healthy for a country and are too severely restricted in China.

I think basically that China only exists to serve it's own interests, or that of it's corrupt government, "The Party".

Many people do not know that the Chinese military does not even exist to defend Chinese nationals. The cities can all be burnt to a cinder, as long as the primary CPC leadership structure remains in place.

NO, democratic and freedom loving nations in the West should NEVER align themselves with countries like China and their "values".

The Chinese, Saudi's, Pakistanis, Iranians etc have been doing things ten times worse than Trump for decades.

Like I said, in the USA and Australia for example we can freely protest. Women can openly demonstrate in the street without consequence.

Try that in China, Pakistan, Iran, etc, see how far you get.

You wrote GFY

You made my day.

You made my week.

Chinese nationals do not find "consensus" and they have zero say in how their
country is run.

Silverboy, I wrote that they struggle to find consensus. Nations are never unitary in their thinking. The thousands of people in the party congress are chosen locally, many of course are party members, but party members in China are in the millions. Many of course are somewhat or entirely corrupt, but that is not unlike my own homeland. I feel that "zero say" is not correct. I do agree that power is not widely enough distributed in China, but I feel the same about the U.S.

The Chinese media is state owned. There is only "one voice" in China, many Chinese
told me this when I lived there.

The U.S. media is corporate owned. Chinese social media is alive and well, but yes: controlled in content. I agree that a free press is very important and that the west is superior to China in that regard.

China is not a dictatorship? A country where people are imprisoned for even slight forms of
dissent IS a dictatorship.

Per capita the U.S. has the world's most imprisoned population. Dictatorship refers to the consolidation of power within one person that is not distributed in a legislative body or checked by a judiciary. Few political scientists would characterize China as a dictatorship.

Chinese people also can't
and don't vote, so the Chinese government has no mandate and zero legitimacy. Nobody put
the communists in power, they put THEMSELVES in there.

On the local level Chinese vote directly for village officials. I do not accept the concepts of mandates and legitimacy. Power controls all societies which then are variably successful in deluding their citizens. The Chinese communist party has always been comprised of Chinese citizens who have seized their country from the Kuomintang and have maintained power in the same way that all government maintain power, education, fear and coercion. The U.S. seized the continent from the native Americans, built their society on slavery and cheap immigrant labor, and has waged an endless military industrial imperialism against the weaker nations of the world. The U.S. has been enormously successful in selling the 'narrative' of freedom, justice, and U.S. exceptionalism to its poorly educated citizens who all to often blame themselves for their poverty and increasingly diminished share of national wealth.

The Chinese do not celebrate individuality or diversity. China is an extremely hostile and
xenophobic nation.

In that you celebrate individuality, SB, you will certainly appreciate my honest personal opinions that differ from yours in these regards.

Hope Pattaya is treating you well. Enjoy.

People like Fifi should think about this when complaining about Trump.

Think about what, SB?

trump is a disgusting pig that is taking our rights away, don't you see?

I disagree. Totally.

China has absolutely no ideological allies, there
is no other country in this world that is sharing China's views of the global order

China is roughly 20% of the world's population, more that the sum of Europe, England and the U.S. combined. When Chinese nationals struggle to find a consensus, they have more people represented at the table than almost ALL of your 'Western' society.

During the past 50 years China has lifted 400 million people out of poverty, while India and all of Africa have languished in post-colonial squalor, victims of the 'Western values' that you extol.

Nation-states do not have 'views'. Elites that run nations do have agendas, and yes: China's elites' agenda is unique to a country of its size, history and culture. Since Deng Xiaoping, this agenda has ensured that China is neither a dictatorship nor a communist autocratic state.

Western nations are allied to each others
through various common grounds such as their democratic views of what is right or wrong,
their judeo-christian cultural roots, etc.

Western philosophic 'views' celebrate diversity and individuality. Why do you find China's variance from your own values so disturbing?

I suspect that your own homeland has a variety of social problems that would benefit from your scrutiny. No doubt your understanding of your own culture is superior to your untutored criticism of distant societies.

Always remember that China is not a friend of or allied with any Western country.

Actually, China is not a friend of or allied with anyone. Well there is North Korea which basically was a vassal state of China until recently, but now fat Kim has gone nuts and China is not happy with him anymore. China has absolutely no ideological allies, there is no other country in this world that is sharing China's views of the global order or wanting it to happen, and it won't anyway. Western nations are allied to each others through various common grounds such as their democratic views of what is right or wrong, their judeo-christian cultural roots, etc... but there is no one sharing China's views of the world as it should be. There are many other dictatorships and authoritarian regimes of course, but either they do not feel related to the sino-centric cultural and ideological views of the CCP, or their goals are vastly different from that of China.

For what it is, the 'China model' of an economically successful dictatorship is far less attractive to many other authoritarian regimes than that of Singapore. China has achieved a lot only thanks to the sheer size of its population, but the average Chinese (not talking about the 0,01% elite each owning 100 flats here, but the average joe) remains extremely poor compared to the average Singaporean and, beside India (and maybe Indonesia), other countries can not solely rely on sheer numbers if they want to become economically successful dictatorships, they need quality over quantity, just like Singapore. Also the Singapore model of maintaining the leadership authority is far more attractive in that it is relatively 'international' in opposition to the very sino-centric Chinese model.

I was not talking about Muslims. I am talking about you Chinese people and your government. Your racist, violent, and imperialist ambitions.

You must be, and will be stopped, by use of extreme force if need be.

Western nations can also do things to harm the Chinese economy and should be doing so IMO.

Always remember that China is not a friend of or allied with any Western country. Grovelling to someone you will be at war
with in the near future is never a good idea. China currently closely resembles Japan in the 1930's.

These people have violent and imperialist ambitions, make no mistake about that!