Glad to see the back of him, and not alone.

Good post, Taffy!

Yeah, that's right.

If you are the Kevin I think you are you certainly DO NOT have a stellar reputation. You better look in the mirror. Yes, pot and kettle.

Maybe you don't understand the hatred that can develop between certain ex-pat communities. Even online ex-pats on forums. I've seen fairly trivial disputes balloon into a shit storm.

There are many rival ex-pat groups in China, Thailand, and Indonesia. They claim certain "turf" as their own, and will vociferously defend members of their clan if the need arises.

Threats of violence and actual violence is not uncommon. Especially in the Dongbei ( north-east ) region of China, Pattaya/Chonburi region of Thailand, and Bali in Indonesia.

There is often a feeling that wrongdoers must be brought to justice, or otherwise revenge is justifiable.

I doubt it is any training centre, really, how could any training centre in China harm Turnoi, myself, yourself?

I was never scared of them even when I lived in China, and I really pissed off a lot of people when I was there.

" the enemies of Turnoi in the USA, Canada, Australia, etc... "

According to you, he seems to have a lot of ennemies

One thing worth considering. This is not the first occasion that Turnoi has skedaddled. But on this last occasion it all happened quickly without the characteristic argy-bargy. This time he seems to have wented like a bullet from a gun, torching all his prized posts as he fled. I ask myself was there some reason which had nothing to do with DegreeDiscussion or anybody on this forum. Something seems to have alarmed him- now what was it? Maybe that evil genius 'The_Baker' has one over on him? Maybe some wicked multi-international training centre had at last decided enough is enough. [edited]

" the enemies of Turnoi in the USA, Canada, Australia, etc... "

According to you, he seems to have a lot of ennemies

You said things about me that were not true, Taffy, but I forgave. But overall, I enjoy your humor.

But really overall, and for the record, and again: I am categorically against Dr Copy & Paste issuing threats, mostly including a residential address.

I would agree with the Once a Month poster that, potentially, there is an accumulation of plaque in the frontal lobe that blocks some important social judgment neurons. Could happen to everybody, mostly with age. But let's all be safe and enjoy ourselves and our families in the meantime. Gotta go now, gotta cut and paste something. Cheers!

Well I imagine I was unfair concerning copying&pasting, as obviously a lot of that needs to be done if you are collating material for the type of intellectual stuff that turrnoi dabbles in. So, I can apologise to him for that one.

I'm worn out, now the weather has improved I need to put in about 5 hours on the square every day. Esther befriended a girl with a white strip on her face. All the parents thought it could be infectious and so the child was ignored but since Esther has been playing with her they have all accepted this mildly afflicted girl, so that's a good outcome. Shame we'll be leaving, Esther has made dozens of friends. I think we are safe on the square- I hope so.

If Turnoi can still write a few academic papers and sell a few books and mostly relax and chill out I'd forget about the whole DD thing. Personally, I have an idea about who slandered him, not you btw. Anyway, the thread was locked down by the mods over there in mid-2014. Better to just move on I think. 2014 is dead and buried.

I also have an idea about who slandered Turnoi on the locked down thread of the Degree Discussion forum. If I were you, I would not divulge the name of that person. We don't want Turnoi sending any more threatening e-mails!

As another poster has stated, this ain't the Spanish Inquisition!

You said things about me that were not true, Taffy, but I forgave. But overall, I enjoy your humor.

But really overall, and for the record, and again: I am categorically against Dr Copy & Paste issuing threats, mostly including a residential address.

I would agree with the Once a Month poster that, potentially, there is an accumulation of plaque in the frontal lobe that blocks some important social judgment neurons. Could happen to everybody, mostly with age. But let's all be safe and enjoy ourselves and our families in the meantime. Gotta go now, gotta cut and paste something. Cheers!

I check this forum once a month. There are pearls. Once in a while.

Pearls or not, this is a discussion forum. This is not the Spanish Inquisition. I understand that some people develop dementia as they get older; this is a sad fact of life. But threats have no place in the context of a discussion forum disagreement over cut and paste publishing. At best, they reflect badly on the morality of the person. At worst and sadly, on the mental health of the person.

Like you wrote one day, it's mostly copy and paste.

When he is sober enough to handle the mouse.

Oh-Ho. I want to try and be diplomatic you cad! Hahaha! I don't really relish some bloody hitman on my tail you know- or suggest that I used to shag sheep in Wales on Daves Cafe or the like!

Put it like this, when you have to do the amount of gathering of information to put the Yellow Emperor into German say, you have to be practical and do some selective copy and pasting. Now am I right or am i right?

If Turnoi can still write a few academic papers and sell a few books and mostly relax and chill out I'd forget about the whole DD thing. Personally, I have an idea about who slandered him, not you btw. Anyway, the thread was locked down by the mods over there in mid-2014. Better to just move on I think. 2014 is dead and buried.

Thanks. Well, yes the work he put into the books etceteras was impressive and I couldn't do it.

Anything special I should know if I apply for a moderators job, Fifi? Paid holidays, pension schemes v freelancing?

Can you download and install something like a Moderators APK file for one's Android, or do you have to hump around a laptop?

What is them pitfalls or perks- do you get a free IPhone for example? or is it IPod?

Could I moderate from my Kindle Fire?

I feel sorry for the folk that Turnoi has blackmailed and worse that have been vulnerable and had something to keep private. I have no skeletons in my cupboard. The man is mad, you can't pursue a person like London Girl because you don't agree with her posts, which he did and even contacted the tax authorities about her. He's insane.

AGREED!

Yes thanks, that's a good comparison.

Glad that LG does well. I did try and have a look at facebook last night but I am not a member and refuse to be a member.

There is a long story behind that, Caring.

In the old days, Turnoi used to talk to opponents very badly and even bandy around the paedophile word for difficult customers, if the end he thought justified the means. He most probably did think he had sacred duties (getting rid of training centres) where he really didn't need the interference of the likes of LondonGirl with her good grammar to interrupt the necessary work he was doing. It was always about the end justifying the means. Whoever went on DegreeDiscussions (and I think it was just one poster) I am sure that they merely wanted to give him some of his own medicine- and if an innocent who had supported him probably out of a strong sense of loyalty was the subject of jokes, well that was unfortunate. That's how I read the history.

At the LondonGirl time, she had a few supporters including me under a handle I can't recall, and the old Foxy Poster. I don't think LG and I saw things all the same, not at all, but I could see that the grammar and ESL in general that she was arguing over with Turnoi was impeccably correct. For those who didn't know LG, as far as her English was concerned she was a sort of British Trumpsey. If you can imagine Trumpsey arguing with Turnoi about English Grammar, well there wouldn't be much of a contest would there? Some might not agree with my Trumpsey LG comparison but it's pretty close I think.

There is a long story behind that, Caring.

Not sure who "we" is. The DD thread has personally had no effect on me, although I have admitted it contained a lot of lies.

Maybe Turnoi feels that thread has damaged his professional reputation in some way, I am not sure.

Well, I had/have plenty of free time, but not interested in dobbing people into tax departments, especially if they are not from my own country.

If Turnoi really did rat LG/Beth into the Spanish tax authorities I'd say that is not right.

Damn. No one told me that posting on a forum would be so dangerous.
My apologies to everyone.
Check please.

You'll be safe, you have been sensible, whereas, me, Beth, and a couple of others have told other posters all about ourselves. But you have to be on your guard all the time; there's a couple of animals out there who can piece together seemingly innocents bits of information and come up with clear leads as to who you are ,where you are and more.

Yeah, I don't have a problem with Hong Kong or Taiwan but the mainland is a problem because of the evil government there and because the people there are easily led and brainwashed. I said before that the mainland Chinese are evil, that is a bit harsh, but their government certainly is IMO.

I am not sure if it was The Baker or not, I don't really care about the pictures anyway. If I knew LG had cancer I would certainly have gone easy on her. I did not know about her plight.

I put it on the record that I never tried to contact any tax authorities in regard to the LG poster either.

Nobody thinks you had anything to do with pursuing LG.

You should cast your mind back and thing 'who was good at winkling out info on the Internet?' CV's/profiles all sorts of stuff. Who had plenty of time to waste doing it?

For those who know her name, you will see on her Facebook page that she is OK. I was very happy to read her posts; she is fighting the same fights that some of us fight. Very proud of you, London Girl. I think if she decided to come back to the forum, she would find that the environment is changed for the best.

Yeah, I don't have a problem with Hong Kong or Taiwan but the mainland is a problem because of the evil government there and because the people there are easily led and brainwashed. I said before that the mainland Chinese are evil, that is a bit harsh, but their government certainly is IMO.

I am not sure if it was The Baker or not, I don't really care about the pictures anyway. If I knew LG had cancer I would certainly have gone easy on her. I did not know about her plight.

I put it on the record that I never tried to contact any tax authorities in regard to the LG poster either.

No apologies for LG either, we don't have ESP.

You're forgetting, Turnoi took his fight against LG so seriously that he contacted a place she had worked at and contacted the Spanish tax authorities hoping to get her into loads of trouble. And that revelation is from his own mouth. The_Baker whom you know dragged out photos of you and photos of pies and stuff. Don't know why, I thought you two supported each other in hating China but loving Hong Kong. Certainly wasn't me I don't know that much about you or Turnoi for that matter.

Basically what was written on DD about Turnoi was slander and rubbish, same with me to a lesser extent. Smart people know it was all lies, so the effect was minimal. I am sure it has had almost zero effect on T's stellar reputation. Therefore not really worth worrying about IMO. No apologies for LG either, we don't have ESP.

Not good

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From:
Date: 2017-04-12 09:15:09
To: "dairaymontjones@yahoo.com" <dairaymontjones@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: wanker turnoi
is he bluffing?
i couldn't make that call,
and i shouldn't!
I'm not the one who has to bear the consequences, if there are any!

but i think u are more qualified to judge what to do than me..

At 2017-04-12 08:35:51, "dai jones" <dairaymontjones@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mwana Mbugu <turjakuunnen.turnoi75@googlemail.com>
To
dairaymontjones@yahoo.com
Today at 1:04 AM
Hi, wanker -

your private address in the UK is:

45 Cemetery Rd, Ipswich IP4 2JA, UK
Is that the paxe where your wanker restroom is?
We are not yet done with you; you should expect to be repaid with regard to your posts on degreediscussion.com in kind very soon.

Not sincerely,
Dr,. T. T.

P.S. The only way to settle that matter once and for all is to send an apology for what yolu did. Otherwise you will face the consequences.

I do hope that this in not an actual communication from Dr. Turnoi.
If it is, it is shameful.

This is wrong

I know you, Taffy, would never do something like that.

Proportionally, as bad as United Airlines.