Not sure about that. Nanning is by far one of the most boring cities in China and in the whole of Asia. It does not have even one authentic Western bar!

Good luck attracting a Chinese woman in Nanning on a 6000 rmb a month teaching salary!

I have given that other poster some advice just in case they are genuine. My last post I replied to myself by mistake. Too much wine last night, haha! Anyway, yes, giving out e-mail addresses at the current time is not such a good idea. I have given out mine several times before and have contacted several people who posted on here.

I forgot to mention, once again if you are genuine: cheap sex on tap 24 hours a day with sexy women should not be your only consideration. What about the weather? I like sunshine and beaches. A large and vibrant ex-pat community? All different types of quality Western food? These are all important IMO. Find a place in Asia where you can speak English and live a Western lifestyle but ignore the mainstream host culture. Pattaya ticks all the boxes for me. I can have a lifestyle similar to in Australia but without the expenses and I can avoid hideous white Australian women. You can also find a place that suits you. Just get out of China though or you will end up with nothing. A British guy I know in his fifties is stuck in Nanning. No women, a low paying teaching job, nothing to look forward to. You don't need to be like him!

Missed this post. Really you are a smart arse. I have money, probably more than you. I don't
have a wife.

I won't marry a Chinese woman just to say "look, I have an Asian wife".

Some of you blokes have an overblown opinion of yourselves.

Yawn!

Missed this post. Really you are a smart arse. I have money, probably more than you. I don't have a wife.

I won't marry a Chinese woman just to say "look, I have an Asian wife".

Some of you blokes have an overblown opinion of yourselves.

I'm a new reader, but a foreign teacher in Asia who has had to visit a red light district for the first time to relieve my sexual frustration. That has been a consequence of my inability to get laid as it's been impossible for me to have developed a normal relationship with any native woman of repute, not for the want of trying! I've tried my socks off, but no good result!

Would you please publish your email so I can contact you for advice?

I have heard about this sort of thing before, but that article was different to what I had heard. From what I know cycling can also cause the testicles to overheat which is not a good thing.

Similar to wearing really tight jeans, which is no good either.

Older blokes like Taffs and ex-pat hubby would remember the "tackle masher" jeans in the mid 70's. Popular with Status Quo and Bay City Rollers and other popular bands of the time like Skyhooks and Sherbet in Australia.

Those blokes did not seem to have any fertility problems however!

I'm not sure cycling is a good thing for men!

Guys, Is Cycling Ruining Your Sex Life?

Is your bike saddle causing impotence?

http://www.over40cyclist.com/cycling-and-impotence/

Bloody Hell, never thought about that!

I even know a group of cyclists who ride AT NIGHT from San Diego to Tijuana. They drive as a pack, one or two dozens. They never felt threatened.

So, if you were a lone Aussie making your way to them pink rooms, you could somehow get in the middle of that cycling pack for protection?

I'm not sure cycling is a good thing for men!

Guys, Is Cycling Ruining Your Sex Life?

Is your bike saddle causing impotence?

http://www.over40cyclist.com/cycling-and-impotence/

I know many ex-pats in China, including Americans who are looking for somewhere else to relocate. So far, the destinations of choice are Thailand ( not always Pattaya, Hua Hin and Chiang Mai were also mentioned ), Bali, Costa Rica ( affordable health care and low cost of living ), Panama, Spain, and Greece ( Greece I don't understand )

NONE of them ever talked about Mexico. I am sure there are some nice places there, I know some Australians go on surfing holidays there.

What i want to know is that hen-packs from the west also holiday in Thailand why is it that good looking blokes like SB are not providing a service themselves, and taking money rather than giving?

If i were free I might consider setting myself up in New York or somewhere as the major or the colonel complete with gong and a touch of breeding- and earn myself some cash. American women are denied men with style and breeding. I think I could earn a packet.

Some men have got gold between their legs and are not using it properly.

Good ol James Galway, gotta love him, lol! In August 2002 I was driving along the Stuart Highway with my Thai wife about 100 kilometres south of Darwin and there was a black bloke with a didgeridoo walking down the side of the highway.

I was doing 120 km/h so I did not get a really good look at him. My wive said "look, he's got one of those blowing things". That was a funny statement from her!

Even 120 AUD is still expensive compared to Pattaya. I could get a high class a go go girl at LK Metro , short time, for less than that.

Australia, in general, it's too expensive. Not just for girls, for most things.

Although I live in San Diego, a few miles away from the border, I only went 3-4 times to Mexico, to Ensenada, which is on the coast, about 70 miles south of San Diego. The road, carved on the sides of the mountains and hills, overlooking the Pacific Ocean, under the sun (it's sunny most of the time in SD) is one of the most beautiful in the world.

I never felt threatened in Ensenada, which was never a drug hub because it is too far from the US border. People are lovely there. Food delicious. But Tijuana, right across the border, had a bad reputation 5 years ago and more: drug wars (all the fault of the US government). We have to drive through Tijuana to go to Ensenada; it's safe to drive through but I would not stop, even today that Tijuana ("TJ") has improved a lot. There is quite a wealthy community (Americans and Mexicans) on the coast, just behind Tijuana: such enclaves are as safe as safe areas in the US (as safe as San Diego for example). It all depends where you go. One has to know where to go. Each time I went to Mexico, I was with friends who knew what they were doing.

I have friends who own houses in Ensenada and on the coast of TJ: they never mention any problems with safety. They spend 6 months a year down there, and 6 months in SD. Again, it all depends where you go.

Yes indeed.

Asian whores on the Gold Coast can range anywhere from 120 AUD for half an hour for average
Thai and Chinese gals and up to 500 dollars an hour for high class Koreans and Japanese.

White Australian gals on GC can be very expensive, the stereotypical tall, busty and leggy
Gold Coast blonde with long blonde hair. From 200 to 800 AUD an hour. It is usually rich
Japanese tourists who like them.

The Gold Coast is all glitz and glamour, a bit like Las Vegas in the US, but without all the
casinos, although the GC has Jupiter's Casino at Broadbeach.

A new luxury 220 million dollar tower is UC there at this time.

If I wasn't wed and without a girlfriend, and in AUSTRALIA, I'd head for the Gold Coast to find an average Thai/Chinese whore.

Mexico is no good. A lot of guns, drugs, corruption, violence, it is not safe. Same with Colombia and Panama. I was thinking of alternatives to China a few years ago and looked at Panama as an option.

This is one thing I love in Pattaya: You can just sit in any bar, any restaurant, on some stairs on Beach Rd, almost anywhere, and women just approach you. "Hi, can I sit with you?" "Where you from"? "What your name?"

It is really cute and funny and charming. The young ones like 21,22, they are especially funny.

In China you can sit at a bar or in a restaurant all day and nobody will even give you the time of day.

I am lazy now, I'm older and don't want to put in any effort toward anything, especially chasing women. Even this part-time work I'm doing is a grind. It's just for the money.

I'm done with supporting anyone or waiting for them. Not sure if that's your attitude, it's certainly mine!

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Mind you and with deep respect to the lady, if you are going to land a thinking-man's-crumpet, like in Trumpsey's league you will need to learn to play and sing 'Down by the Salley Gardens' on your Didgeridoo.(If you want to stay down market any old bit of popular pop nonsense will do.) And after that still glaring at you as if you was like some nauseating dollop of shite she'll ask you wot was the poet called!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????? and you'd better know.

I was just thinking about an alternative to Pattaya. Maybe somewhere like Mexico. I have an idea expats could get value for money there. This could be you in a couple of years, SB. I bet an Aussie dollar could go a long way in Mexico? Being serious sin't there an alternative to Asia?

But you are forgetting that Silverboy loves Asian girls!

A song he should love as it will remind him of such Pattayan gals.

Yellow
歌手：Coldplay

http://music.163.com/#/song?id=17177324

I mean both. A prostitute in China costs a lot more than one in Pattaya. I know from personal experience. The service is much better in Thailand also. You get value for money.

Just for comparison, can you enlighten us on the going rate for a quickie/knee trembler with a young Asian whore plying her trade in the Gold Coast of your wonderful land?

You sound really, really ready to return home, Taffy. You must be leaving soon, in a couple of weeks if I remember well?

How would you summarize your stay in China?

China is probably good for many old white farts like me, as long as they wind up all their interests back home in the west; apart from any pensions of course. If one really wants to stay in China, I have a feeling that one's only available choice should be to accept and settle down in China and then you're able to come to terms with the place. The consideration for me is I have a young child who carries a British passport, and I have too many reasons to return, like property and so forth. If I were determined to settle in China I would need to sever any strings that tug me home.

We do discuss what we should do in life but it does fall on me to make the big decisions. I have to decide what's best for all of us.

The good news is, we have sold this flat and have worked out that we will go home at least £10,000 better off, largely thanks to Brexit. Much of the money has been transfered home already. I have no intentions of having large amounts of money confiscated en route. £50 will be enough for the trip. During our stay here we have lived solely off of my wife's earnings, which have also been used to put back any initial draws on savings. The books have been long since squared.

There have been some advantages in spending a year here, like Esther's Mandarin....but she would have ended up bi-lingual anyway, so it's probably all been a bit of a waste of time. End of May.

Men should not be buying houses for women, never ever. If you have done this YOU are the fool!

Unless a man went 50/50 in purchasing a house with his woman he has been ripped off.

Yes, the Pattaya ex-pats got it right. They saw the light.

Men can do what they like with their money. If a man's chosen wife has no money, how can she go halfers in buying the family house? Love is the reason many men marry, not money.

I wouldn't visit Pattaya FOR LOVE NOR MONEY, but that's just my view. Because unlike you, I have a wife, and money.

Each to their own!

I mean both. A prostitute in China costs a lot more than one in Pattaya. I know from personal experience. The service is much better in Thailand also. You get value for money.

10 times as much, as you have stated?

As for "shelling out money so that a girl will marry you" why would anyone do that? If the girl really loves you she will marry you, rich or poor, that is regardless of in China, Thailand or anywhere in Asia

Some men infatuated with a young girl might do so. A rich old man from Asia who wants to live in the west asap, get a western passport and a young western girl as his wife might do so too. Not everyone marries for love nor for great sex! That applies to young girls too.

No, men should not foot the bill for meals, dinners. A married friend of mine from Canada ( he is divorcing his Chinese wife ) now in Pattaya used to date women in Nanning. He would never agree to meet them at a restaurant as that means wasting money for two meals. He would invite them back to his rented apartment for coffee. His wife was often in another city for work so he could do this.

Some men take great pleasure in paying wholly for their dates. They do not regard this as wasting money coz they enjoy a young girl's company so much that they want to please her in every possible way.

If they did not agree to sex on the first or second meet it was "bye bye". This is smart and all men should follow this strategy.

Some men have much more patience than you! They do not dump a girl coz she doesn't agree to have sex after a couple of dates. Promiscuous girls are not good marriage material.

Thanks for your reply. Reading it has told me a lot about you. Interesting, indeed!

SB: Taffy is married with child. He already has "verything Western men need and want"

I mean both. A prostitute in China costs a lot more than one in Pattaya. I know from personal experience. The service is much better in Thailand also. You get value for money.

As for "shelling out money so that a girl will marry you" why would anyone do that? If the girl really loves you she will marry you, rich or poor, that is regardless of in China, Thailand or anywhere in Asia

No, men should not foot the bill for meals, dinners. A married friend of mine from Canada ( he is divorcing his Chinese wife ) now in Pattaya used to date women in Nanning. He would never agree to meet them at a restaurant as that means wasting money for two meals. He would invite them back to his rented apartment for coffee. His wife was often in another city for work so he could do this.

If they did not agree to sex on the first or second meet it was "bye bye". This is smart and all men should follow this strategy.

A good post, Expat. Glad you managed to do without a mortgage. Paying rent is dead money. We paid for our houses in UK and here.....but if we do have one in Ipswich Turnoi may have converted it to rubble by now.

My mind is turned to 'how do I get my car out of the garage when I return- it has a perforated sump..Oh-Ho?' A friends says I should be able to drive it out of the garage on the starter motor, not the engine. The battery I left sitting on a windowsill trickle-charging off of a solar-powered charger- and it's been like that for a year.

What about my sansevierias (spelling?) will they be dead?

Ah yes! Beware of Turnoi. Quite right, he neither forgives nor forgets, and he makes threats!

Now your mind is focussed on personal matters back home. Is that ......rias a kind of flower? I expect so.

Bye for now.

You sound really, really ready to return home, Taffy. You must be leaving soon, in a couple of weeks if I remember well?

How would you summarize your stay in China?

Bad things can happen to people anywhere. It's up to you to choose the safest possible environment for you and your immediate family. That can depend on your finances. Even then you can be caught up in some bad situations.

Complaining on this board won't change a thing in this respect, you might as well piss into the wind, but at least you are in a country where fatalities from gunshots are relatively uncommon.

You're wise enough to know this, aren't you?

There's a lot of truth in what you say-I wouldn't deny it. But it is still a health risk here. There's the pollution and food poisoning, both of which can kill. Youn will notice that the Chinese don't try and muffle a sneeze, they will let it come roaring out, launch it into the air so it lays us all low. They really can be pigs.

I am absolutely horrified by the homicides, mostly in some poor suburbs of US cities. The odd stone thrown at you by a child in China pales into insignificance when compared with homicide crimes, many involving fatal gunshots, that the homicide squads of the USA are tasked to try to solve.

Be thankful you are in China, and not in America! Certainly I am.

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None of which would be any consolation if the little rats aim was wide of the mark but hit my girl. Stones can maim for life. I said, or meant to say, that me and mine are not the victims of these horrid Chinese kids. Bullying by means of taunting can wreck peoples lives as can fatal gunshots.

Chinese men are weak and stupid. Look at how they indulge their women! They have turned their women into spoiled and entitled bitches.

Typical Silvervoy stereotype. I disagree with that one.

I was replying to Alias Taffy. He had cherry-picked a previous post of yours.

How is it a stereotype? I've lost count of how many times male students have said to me, "I must study hard and get a good job so I can buy a house and find a wife".

This is drilled into the minds of Chinese men as soon as they finish high school these days. The problem is that by indulging "their" women ( Chinese women don't belong to Chinese men ) they just make the problem worse.

It seems they don't have the balls to say "buy your own house and car". I have to say that out of all Asian women the Chinese seem to be the one's most lacking any sense of personal responsibility.

And now you have expanded Taffy's cherry-pick to talk about 'house' and 'car' , I will go on:

FYI, I have been lucky enough never to have had a mortgage. I bought outright coz I didn't wanna be controlled by landlords and bankers (= wankers)! I did not take out any house insurance...LOL!

How about you? Have you ever been controlled by landlords, insurance companies attached to bankers, and bankers on account of having a mortgage? Paying rent is a mug's game imo.

Mortgages aren't much better, especially in China where the interest rates are too high, the mortgages are hard to obtain coz banks distrust many employers, and the initial deposit is way too high.

I'll go on:

Many Chinese do not even finish high school, they drop out to return to their farms. Many don't enter into higher education. Of those who do, many can't speak English. You have only spoken to colege/university students.

In China, there are far more women than men. So, women are empowered. They call the shots. But you don't want a wife, you prefer to be footloose and free. Why are you pushing this marriage thing in China? Maybe some Chinese men are just like you. Y'all can go to Pataya!

If I have the money to buy a house outright so my wife and I can save money on rent+=mortgage+house insurance, I have the right to do so without all this BS from you about domineering, scrounging Chinese women.

Huh, your own country's poiticians are in disagreements about housing prices, rents and superannuation fund diversions to initial deposits or some such crap!

We don't need to listen to you!

I will say there is the odd exception. Your wife seems to be one of them. However, generally speaking, any man interested in a Chinese woman better have a super fat wallet.

Money comes first with them, anything else is of little concern.

We went to meet the wife on her lunch break today. Me in shorts and tee-shirt and Esther the same, and we were both freezing-it had suddenly gorn from 80odd to cold. So I bought me and the girl 3 chicken burgers at 5yuan each from an up-market street seller. We went to sit in KFC, where the wife fed the girl her burger and I ate my unaided. Then wife went back to work stopping at a supermarket on the way in order to save money and buy herself two yuan-worth of bingzi. Yes, she is naturally careful with money.

How is it a stereotype? I've lost count of how many times male students have said to me, "I must study hard and get a good job so I can buy a house and find a wife".

This is drilled into the minds of Chinese men as soon as they finish high school these days. The problem is that by indulging "their" women ( Chinese women don't belong to Chinese men ) they just make the problem worse.

It seems they don't have the balls to say "buy your own house and car". I have to say that out of all Asian women the Chinese seem to be the one's most lacking any sense of personal responsibility.

Chinese men are weak and stupid. Look at how they indulge their women! They have turned their women into spoiled and entitled bitches.
Typical Silvervoy stereotype. I disagree with that one.

Both parents seem to be teaching their kids to be rude to foreigners- to taunt and even throw stones at foreigners. I've had a bellyful of them all.
I was gonna ask in which province/city the taunting was taking place. However, I had second thoughts. I'd fear for your safety if you were to answer that question on this board because I know of a certain BEADY-EYED individual who has threatened your safety while you are in China.

Please feel free to email me said info as you already know me not to be a blabbermouth or a loose cannon. I promise to keep said info under my hat!

Wasn't just talking about myself but have had a stone thrown at me.
Oh absolutely I trust you completely and will e-mail later. I am off out for rest of the day soon.

It's a no-brainer!

Love is a no-brainer.

Almost all expats in China have chosen a wife who speaks English to some degree. Chinese women who both speak English and are attracted to Western men are a unique cohort. I hesitate to characterize these women as 'less attractive' than the norm, but I have been told by many Chinese that they are perceived as such.

Perhaps SB, as you suggest, the 'materialism' of these FT sirens is a general characteristic of Chinese women and in fact all marriage in China requires a socially acceptable 'buy in'.

But it may also be the case that the women in China who are speaking in English to foreign men about a possible relationship are a unique subset of Chinese women.

More research is needed on the mating rituals of FTs in China.

I am not just talking about shagging. For the majority of men, if they want a Chinese girlfriend they must spend huge amounts of cash on her. A Chinese wife? You MUST buy a house and car for her as a condition of marriage. If that is not high priced prostitution I don't know what is. The problem is getting worse. Just look at any Chinese TV dating show to see how materialistic the women have become. "If You Are The One" is one of the worst. Why would any man even bother with those hideous entitled women? Pattaya is the only way to go. Just shag, or have short term girlfriends. Of all the married ex-pats I know in China only about 20 per cent of them rent. The rest of them bought houses or have mortgages. Why? The wife demanded that they did. Some of them even brag about the "free sex" they get, but they don't even have freedom. Having to be home by 7 pm every night is not "freedom". Having to work all the time because the wife wants more clothes, shoes, jewelery, that is not freedom. I know men in their fifties in China who are working 7 days a week to pay off the bigger apartment they were pressured to buy. Whilst the 50 year olds in Pattaya are just chilling out and have a different sexy GF each month for a relative pittance. Who has a better deal? It's a no-brainer!

Good post, SB.

herself!!!

Yes.

The concept of god became bearable to me when I started singing (that was in my SRF days) to the divine mother.

Before that, the thought of an old fart sitting on a throne was bringing the worst out of me.

Pivoting from the relative price of coitus to the vagaries of certain Chinese men is a less than convincing struggle for the moral high ground.

I don't know about you Trumpsey but I am none the wiser since Mr Adelstein explained to you why the army of moderators is littering the forum with 'Admins in red' Just not good enough I'd say.

I assure you it is my wont to get as much variety in a post as I can. Take yesterday........oh no......... that was edited-for containing too much variety maybe. Pity, it was pointing out that FT's come in all shapes and sizes.....so to speak.

Chinese men are weak and stupid. Look at how they indulge their women! They have turned their women into spoiled and entitled bitches.

Haha, a China girl costs ten times more than any Pattaya girl.

Good for you, careful with money. Ten shags for the price of one can't be bad.

Had some bad run-ins with the Chinese today- the males should be put down in my opinion - NOT LITERALLY, Mr mod. hahaha! just sort of cast into some pigswill.

I feel a wreck without my, little china girl

Hahaha! Good lyrics.

She is certainly a dish. In your opinion because like me you have a Chinese wife- what do you think is so special about the Westerners who are able to attract Chinese girls and have that special quality for actually managing to get said females to agree to marry them? What advice would you give to men that would like to attract a Chinese girl? I think many of us are a little envious when we see Westerner pic with tasty Chinese wife.

I suppose you would have to compare the cost of one of those to airfares to Bangkok, the taxi fare to Pattaya from the airport , unless you are flying direct into Pattaya from somewhere. Then there is accommodation on top of that. Girls are pretty cheap still, but Western food can be expensive.