Nonsense, pedophilia happens a lot in China,

Well, paedophilia is mentioned endlessly on this site, seemingly, often, more often than not, apro-pro of nothing, save a strange and unhealthy compulsion to mention it. I would say that pattayan girls has more relevance to a teachers' forum than said subject. Anyway the compulsion to air the word has arrived again so I should comment. If Trumpsey has said (didn't see her post myself) that there's not many Chinese paedophiles in China then I agree with her. Furthermore, paedophiles among the ranks of FT's in China must be exceedingly thin on the ground- even if you don't like other FT's I have spent many years in China- bit of a disgusting place but they are not paedos.

Here's a question for debate. Why do certain posters feel the need to mention paedophiles for precious little reason at all? We used to have a poster on the site who would hint that this or that other poster was a paedo whenever he was getting beaten in an argument. It worked and the poor innocent poster used vanish.

Thank you for the link. This is it above. My reply to the topmost line. You are trying to do a Turnoi on me!! You have made it quite clear that I only mentioned paedophillia in response to the top line because I was tired of hearing about it.

LOL. His virtual mum Fifi must prepared a special gala diner for her unsavory "son". I bet it's fish and chips with a lot of honey, salt and pepper in it.

Hurry home, your mother has cooked you a meal.

I will not be in China again so someone else will have to liberate the students.

Yes, those pretty young Chinese students need liberating by well-endowed laowai.

Poor things, their hormones are going crazy and they need someone to relieve their sexual stress.

A bit of "hard cock" is in order for them.

I encourage all FT's remaining in China to liberate those horny young students.

Absolutely! Very well said, Fifi.

I was talking about teachers in the West.
But once a sensitivity to pedophilia is awaken in a teacher, it follows the teacher wherever she teaches.

Although for teachers, Taffy, pedophilia unfortunately comes with the territory when children are abused at home and, consequently, are dysfunctional in school: a teacher has to remain vigilant and be able to get finely attuned to her intuitions in this regard.

Yes. You forgot to include the verbal assault of women by Silverboy. It fits the same category. The Fifi poster is remarkably silent on that because of that poster's irrational "attachment" to SB in the virtual world on here. This poster, in my view, speaks with "two tongues". Others might call it opportunism or hypocrisy.

Now, for the irate respondents to this post: I recognize how horrible you think child molestation is. I do agree. But why does it incite more anger in you than random murders of children without a sexual component?

Interestingly enough, Silverboy also used the word "liberate" when writing about having sex with students. Check the archive, or shall we post the link?

I notice my pic with 32 y/o "Joom" that I took in Soi 6 in early August has been removed.

It was a good pic. Taffy said I should take her home to mother.

I'll hang around just to annoy the likes of you. You are not a teacher either.

Even more so if you are still stuck in China.

Looks like Fifi has you all worked out, hehe!

Yes, in fact I watch the shopping channel very often. I enjoy watching "Gemset" on TVSN.

Some beautiful Tanzanite, Emeralds, Sappihres, Rubies, all sort of stuff on there.

I picked on my new 55 cm heavy duty Sterliing Silver chain yesterday.

For sure I'll post a pic of it on here. Also my new watch.

As for my girls, don't worry, I'll post a few pics with my new smart phone that I'll be buying soon. When I get back to my favorite place ( you know where! ) and I'll be there soon, I'll be sure to post some happy snaps just for you!

You indeed are wasting your time on this board. You are at the wrong place, you are no teacher. Go somewhere else!

Or maybe not. Why waste time on the likes of you.

You certainly don't. You grossly overestimate your own role and importance here.

you would hint that I am trying to increase traffic on this board...

I don't perceive SB as disloyal.

It's not dangerous. I've never caught an STD. They can all be treated anyway, especially in Pattaya.

It does not bother me.

Whatever you say Turnoi.

I know that of you, SB.
You should play safe however; not using protection is a dangerous game, don't you think?

Holy sh*t. This is pretty raw information. Well, evil knows no bounds that's for sure...

He he he, I knew that soon, Taffy, you would hint that I am trying to increase traffic on this board...

Aren't both the same because in my case I don't like you AND I don't respect you, Turnoi. Same.

Yes. Mao is an example. More recent (unbiased) research on his biography suggests this.

That being said, it wouldn't simply be true to view pedophily/pedophilia as depending on race or a special ethnic group. The "superstitions from TCM" you are referring to are popular views held among the more less educated and traditionally originate from some sort of "folk medicine" outside established traditional Chinese Medicine; the latter of which is quite rational and anything else than "superstitious".

Chinese men are well known for buying week long holidays with virgin children in Southeast Asia to fulfill superstitions from TCM that having sex with a virgin is a cure-all.

Wrong! That "prophet" had heard something from Jewish and Christian travellers and adherents to these faiths in his own community and made a mix of it. For the Christian part, it is clear that he mainly had contact with Nestorian Christians with a cult and doctrine particular to them. He even managed to do a bit of independent logical thinking to say that the dogma of the two natures in Christ (divine and human) or the concept of the Tri-une God are highly questionable and are to be rejected by believers in the One and True God only.

Whether that was to help to make the world a bit better than before is highly doubtful. I don't want to blame an entire religion or the Muslim community. But in a secular world free from the powers of church or other religious institutions held over others, it only means backwardness. The wind of enlightment blows where it wants. I hope it will reach the place where you are, too, one day...lol

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First of all, figures from 2004 are out of date. I also do not know about areas outside of Pattaya. I've lived in Bangkok before but a long time ago.

You need to make a distinction between pedophiles and sex tourists. I don't even like the term "sex tourist" as Westerners who live in Pattaya, even if they are regular mongers they are not sex tourists or any type of tourist.

They are locals and part of the community. Even local Thais will agree with this. Regular visitors, those who visit four or five times a year are also often considered as locals.

There are various misconceptions and stereotypes about foreigners in Pattaya ( and probably Bangkok )

1)They ( we ) are all older sexual deviates or social misfits who can't attract women in our own countries or are unable to marry due to lack of resources or for otherwise being unattractive to Western women. If that was true then why are there plenty of wealthy and single/unmarried good looking Western men of all ages in Pattaya?

Sure, at least 75 per cent are over 50. A lot of them are good looking though and have money to burn. Still leaves thousands of fit and good looking younger men.

They can still attract Western women in their countries of origin. So why do they choose to live in Pattaya? The answer is obvious. They are more attracted to Thai women and the lifestyle and freedom a city like Pattaya can offer Western men. Many are MGTOW's who reject the social expectations of women and society.

2) Certain people ( mostly Western women ) see a foreigner with a young child in Pattaya and assume this foreigner must be a pedophile. Often it is the son or daughter of a guy who had a previous relationship with a bar girl. Or this guy lived in Thailand before, married and divorced his Thai wife and is now back in Pattaya.

3) Another stereotype is that Western men in Pattaya ( and also Thai men ) only like really young women. Nothing could be further from the truth. Many older men in Pattaya are not interested in any woman under 25. I've heard plenty of guys says "younger bar girls are immature and stupid". There are also many men who are not interested in women under 30 . That is why they will hang out or live in Soi Buakhao/Soi Dianne or LK Metro area or even on Second Road. The majority of foreigners in Pattaya hate pedophiles and there plenty of heavy duty enforcer types willing to sort them out.

The majority of bar girls now are older. Anyone with sinister intentions will have a hard time finding young boys or girls and there are people looking out for such individuals.

Girls at go-go bars must be 20 years old and men can't bring women under 20 back to hotel rooms. ID cards are checked.

In Soi 6, probably the most famous street, there are still younger women, all are over 20 however, many in early 30's even.

I don't abuse/mistreat bar girls, never have, and neither do my friends. If you are kind to them they return that kindness.

I'm not a pedophile, I don't like, support, or encourage pedophiles, never have. I don't lead the way either. I don't tell others where to go or how to find young girls. I don't know where to find them anyway.

No, I won't be giving any money to "sex tourism" prevention charities. I'm not Captain Save A Whore. I am not responsible for Thai women's poverty.

These women will not starve, there is plenty of free food and drink nearly every night. Plenty of ( stupid ) men give different bar girls money on a regular basis. Go to these "poor" Issan girls houses in the countryside and they are full of the latest flat screen TV's, refrigerators, washing machines, smart phones, etc. There is a new Japanese car in the driveway. This "poverty" claim is often bullshit, but I'll admit some women go to Pattaya because of poverty ( to start with )

I give money to other charities, Guide Dogs For The Blind, The Deaf Society, that's enough. As for jewelry, two bar girls helped me when I was sick, so I'm thinking of buying them some gold fusion earrings as a token of my appreciation. However, I never give women anything for free. You want something, get a job.

China will obviously have a larger number of pedophiles due to it's larger population. It is common sense. Why would only Thailand and Philippines have pedophiles? Or do you really think Chinese are more "moral" than other Asian people? That's not the case in my experience.

I'm not saying there are no pedophiles in Thailand or Philippines but blaming Western men for it is illogical and offensive in a way.

I live a moral and honest life and I respect others ( apart from mainland Chinese and Muslims, I don't like them )

I have no reason to feel guilt about anything.

It's a control thing, it's a power thing. Not a sex thing.
In your case, it's a sex thing.
Not a power/control thing.
Right?

Well, obviously you have not read the article before commenting on it: The article is precisely about the similarities between the 2 groups, despite the age difference: The 2 groups react the same way, and the offenders use the same methodology in both cases. But never mind...

Excellent article in today's LA Times "Harvey Weinstein's alleged pattern of harassment echoes that of child sexual abusers" for those interested in the psychology of child abusers.

But as an attorney who has represented scores of victims of child sexual abuse, sexual assault and sexual harassment across the country, here’s what I find most remarkable: The similarities between the pattern of harassment that Weinstein allegedly engaged in, and the patterns of abuse that emerge in an entirely different context — namely, the sexual abuse of children in trusted institutions.


Although the specifics are different, the psychological and behavioral dynamics at play among the perpetrators and victims are virtually identical. The way in which Weinstein allegedly wielded power and relied on institutional silence echoes the manner in which Catholic priests were able to perpetrate grievous wrongs against generations of children.


While there is no doubt that child victims of sexual abuse are in an infinitely more vulnerable and powerless position than adults subjected to sexual harassment and assault, it is equally true that, with the exception of very young children, both groups of victims react in remarkably similar ways to their treatment and exploitation.


In the vast majority of these situations, victims do not react by physically or verbally resisting the offender, reporting the offender or even fleeing at first touch. Rather, victims become psychologically and emotionally paralyzed, overwhelmed by a combination of fear, self-blame, embarrassment and confusion. They become gripped by an emotional maelstrom in which unanswerable and destructively self-critical questions play over and over again in their minds, often for years on end: Why me? How could I let this happen?


As time goes by, without treatment, these feelings corrode the victim’s self-esteem and dignity, and remaining silent becomes their default coping strategy. The perpetrators not only rely on such silence, they deliberately act to engender it.

Article written by Paul Mones, an attorney in Los Angeles who represents victims of sexual abuse and assault.

Top Five Countries with Highest Rates of Child Prostitution
Ludovica Iaccino By Ludovica Iaccino
Updated February 6, 2014 17:43 GMT

Thailand

Child prostitution in Thailand involved 800,000 children under the age of sixteen in 2004.

According to Ecpat, due to the hidden nature of child sexual abuse reliable figures are hard to compile and cases difficult to document. Available figures estimate that currently some 30,000 to 40,000 children, not including foreign children, are exploited as prostitutes.

Sexual exploitation of children in Thailand, as in many other countries, is tremendously influenced by tourism.

"In Pattaya [ Thailand], if there were fewer foreign people coming in to buy sex, then the problem would be easier to manage," Palissorn Noja, who runs Pattaya's Anti-Human Trafficking and Child Abuse Centre, told the Huffington Post.

"They [pedophiles] have an entire worldwide network of people looking for children through human trafficking. And sex tourism makes it harder to stop."

Make no mistake, I'm not being accusative. However, the fact remains that the exploitation of young girls and boys in Thailand would, as the article states, be made easier to manage without the hindrance of sex tourists. I recognize that this is simplifying the issue and that there are deeper (and darker) reasons why children fall into the nests of hornets, yet I know with certainty that given the slightest hint that I may be complicit in their exploitation due to my behavior, my behavior would change. On your part, perhaps a gesture such as donating the cost of one of your cherished watches to a charity of your choice that deals with such issues would be appropriate. Could be that would in some way offset whatever damage you may unknowingly cause by being a gentlemanly and innocent sex tourist.

I think the real problem however is the amount of pedophiles living in the native born
Chinese population.

A totally unsubstantiated and bigoted claim. You know nothing of the actual Chinese population. Furthermore, it begs the question as to how many pedophiles you met when you were in China. Where the hell were you hanging out? How many of them did you report? Or were there so many that your efforts would have been futile?

Your China bashing has reached a new low.

In some places like Pattaya pedophile activity has almost been wiped out over the past 10 to
12 years and that's a really good thing.

On that we can agree, sort of. There is much that goes on that is never seen.

Anyway
the compulsion to air the word has arrived again so I should comment. If Trumpsey has
said (didn't see her post myself) that there's not many Chinese paedophiles in China
then I agree with her.

Taffy, I didn't. http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/forum/index.pl?read=147613
There is little or no quality research on sexual behavior in China. I'm told that Qinghua is attempting to initiate some. The WHO has done studies of incidence of sexual disease. I would not venture my anecdotal observations on such a topic.

As I'm sure you recognize, my post's reference to Western incidence of serial murder and paedophilia among Caucasian men as an argument for visa restrictions in China was Socratic in nature, contrasting the U.S. and British justifications for denying visas to Muslim men based on the incidence of rape in their own nation-states.

Nonsense, pedophilia happens a lot in China,

Well, paedophilia is mentioned endlessly on this site, seemingly, often, more often than not, apro-pro of nothing, save a strange and unhealthy compulsion to mention it. I would say that pattayan girls has more relevance to a teachers' forum than said subject. Anyway the compulsion to air the word has arrived again so I should comment. If Trumpsey has said (didn't see her post myself) that there's not many Chinese paedophiles in China then I agree with her. Furthermore, paedophiles among the ranks of FT's in China must be exceedingly thin on the ground- even if you don't like other FT's I have spent many years in China- bit of a disgusting place but they are not paedos.

Here's a question for debate. Why do certain posters feel the need to mention paedophiles for precious little reason at all? We used to have a poster on the site who would hint that this or that other poster was a paedo whenever he was getting beaten in an argument. It worked and the poor innocent poster used vanish.

I wrote: "It is a well documented that middle aged "Christian" white men comprise the majority of pedophiles and serial killers in all Western countries."

By claiming that pedophilia is rare to non-existent in China,

Watch what you are saying my friend, better speak not than speaking on things you don't fully
understand.

I then wrote: "Given that fact, would it be advisable that Asian countries deny entry to all Western Caucasian men?"
I am not your friend. My friends have the capability to recognize Socratic arguments.

I have been whoring in Asia for years...
You will never feel the excitement and exhilaration of cruising along
Soi 6 in Pattaya on a motorbike wearing new light stone-wash denim jeans, new
Birkenstocks, a white T-shirt, gold and silver chains and a new expensive Oris or Seiko
watch.
You will never experience the all the pretty, healthy and sexy Thai girls ogling at you,
desperate for your love and attention.
You will never know how it feels to be a real man.

You are the poster boy for why White women seduce Muslim men.

[] White women sleep around a lot, just like Chinese women. They are also rarely tested or never tested for STD's, unlike Thai women in places like Pattaya.

I'm not talking about "HIV", the global hoax ( like "global warming" ) that was proven to be a hoax as far back as 1991. There are other std's that are real however and that can be contracted from white girls and also the Chinese [].

I have been whoring in Asia for years without using condoms and never caught anything. However, I know men who have caught diseases from Chinese women and white women ( fyi, Guangxi province in China has one of the highest rates of STD's in Asia )

A UK friend of mine slept around in Pattaya for years and never caught anything. When he went back to London he caught a nasty STD from his new ( white ) British GF. Well, why am I not surprised!

I feel sorry for you. You will never feel the excitement and exhilaration of cruising along Soi 6 in Pattaya on a motorbike wearing new light stone-wash denim jeans, new Birkenstocks, a white T-shirt, gold and silver chains and a new expensive Oris or Seiko watch.

You will never experience the all the pretty, healthy and sexy Thai girls ogling at you, desperate for your love and attention. You will never experience this.

You will never know how it feels to be a real man.

I pity you.

There is also white male trash. And there is too much trash posted on here like the post you are replying to!

Moderators will not post this probably. They only allow anti-Muslim comments.

Good post

Taffy, you are back with the Barbary Coast.... move on!!!!

Middle East men enjoying raping white girls. It has been so throughout history. That is all
there is to it.

That would be absurd. Pedophily is not restricted to "Caucasian" men and women only. And there may be Asian men and women (not all of them, of course) as well involved in the same. Pedophily does not depend on race or ethnicity but on individual conditions of human beings across all nations determined by factors that are not yet too well known. People with this sort of "problem" should not be allowed to work in fields where they could cause real harm.

For Muslims, they are a rather diverse group in ethnic terms, including different ethnic groups, even "Caucasians" and of course others. Again, Muslims are not terrorists or opposed to Western life-style per se. And there is only a relatively small group like ISIS or Al-Qaeda with a Salafist orientation (one among other schools of thought in Islam) who need the attention of national security bodies and law enforcement. The rest are just ordinary people with a focus on family, private and professional life like in the case of any other "ordinary" people.

A bit of reason helps to differentiate properly. Right-wing ideology prefers to exclude reason and facts and to rely on irrational emotion instead when addressing such topics for their own hidden political agendas.

It is a well documented that middle aged "Christian" white men comprise the majority of paedofiles and serial killers in all Western countries. Given that fact, would it be advisable that Asian countries deny entry to all Western Caucasion men?

Maybe you should remember your hero Obama. He was certainly no novice when it came to telling lies.

Muslim men come from a culture where rape is promoted and accepted. Western men do not. Maybe you should go to Saudi Arabia with your feminist claptrap and see how long you last.

Asian countries ( SE-Asian ) will never deny entry to Western Caucasian men as there is way too much money to be made from us. Even more so now thanks to the explosion of the MGTOW movement in the West.

Strange that you did not mention anything about all the Chinese and Korean pedophiles in South-East Asia ( many of them ) No, you wouldn't do that thanks to all your bias and hatred toward Western men.