Yes Geoffrey. Please save yourself the embarrassment and do not reply back.

Nancy, although I admit I am being mean to him, if this forum is really made for us to help one another, how does keeping quiet and ignoring the problems help anyone? Are we all just supposed to get along and pretend that there is nothing wrong in the ESL industry? I am raising the issue that we need to get rid of unqualified educators who are an embarrassment to the profession and to whatever country they are from. You say that conflict will not do us any good. Well I say silence does just as much damage.

let it be! those are imperfections. geofry pls. do not reply back. bartofink pls. stop. this forum is made for us to help one another. Your conflicts will not do us any good.

Thanks!

"I have acquaintances who happens to be native speakers" - who HAPPEN to be

"many of them doesnt have any college degree, fugitives or not even highschool graduates, but they are great people and workmates" - many of them DON'T have college DEGREES, are not even high school graduates or are fugitives. (So you have fugitive friends who also happen to be "great people"? I didn't know criminals were such "great people.")

"with high respects to other certified educators" - with high RESPECT FOR other certified educators

"never a moment that I heard from any of my professors" - (Where do I even begin with this one?) I never heard any of my professors say...

"OH PLEASE CHECK YOUR SPELLING" - Check yours: "thingking"

"can teach english as long as they are capable to teach" - as long as they are capable OF TEACHING (Better yet, say "can teach English as long as they are capable". No need to say "teach" again. Its like saying, "You can swim if you can swim.")

"We are on the 21st century sir and anyone is capable to teach" - We are IN the 21st century and anyone is capable OF TEACHING

"Your grievances has been clearly understood by those who are highly educated" - (I have no idea what you were trying to say here.) grievances HAVE been clearly...

"TO ALL READERS: THIS KIND OF STATEMENTS..." - THESE kinds of statements

Oh Frank Frank Frank.... how pathetic that you feel that way...So sorry for you... Oh please I have acquaintances who happens to be native speakers, who are presently teaching right now and sad to say, many of them doesnt have any college degree, fugitives or not even highschool graduates, but they are great people and workmates, with high respects to other certified educators.

Teaching English is not about who you are or what you are, its about how you can impart your knowledge to the students as a "TEACHER"...If you are a certified educator, you wouldn't be thingking that way. I have finished my masteral degree at University of Texas and never a moment that I heard from any of my professors in that State University that ONLY NATIVE SPEAKERS CAN TEACH ENGLISH...(its ridiculous) French, Germans, Polish, Japanese, Russians, Africans, Egyptians, Vietnamese, Filipinos (OH PLEASE CHECK YOUR SPELLING)...can teach english as long as they are capable to teach....We are on the 21st century sir and anyone is capable to teach..... Your grievances has been clearly understood by those who are highly educated.....I'm so sorry for you...

TO ALL READERS: THIS KIND OF STATEMENTS ARE OBVIOUSLY REACTIONS OF THOSE WHO ARE LESS EDUCATED PEOPLE....LET US PAUSE FOR A MOMENT AND PRAY FOR THEIR SOULS......LET PEACE BE WITH YOU ALL....

GEOFFREY