HSKAMA INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL DONGGUAN - Teachers Discussion

ATTENTION JOB SEEKERS AND STUDENTS

PLEASE AVOID THIS SCHOOL: HSKAMA INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL DONGGUAN.

THEY ARE HIRING FOREIGN TEACHERS BUT THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY THE SALARY. AND THEY ARE CLAIMING THAT THEY ARE ONE OF THE BEST INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL IN DONGGUAN!!!

AN INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL CAN BE CALLED INTERNATIONAL IF HE PASSED THE INTERNATIONAL EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.

THE PRINCIPAL AND ITS STAFF ARE ALL UNEDUCATED. HOW CAN THEY OPERATE A SCHOOL IF THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO TREAT THEIR FOREIGN TEACHERS FAIRLY.

I AM A LAWYER AND I RECEIEVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE SAID SCHOOL.

SO I ADVISE YOU PLEASE DON'T GO TO THIS SCHOOL.

Thank You!

The flowers are amazingly adorable,decorated my cozy room for the coming Christmas,now i sit in front of them,wishing the sender Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
And To You All!
Best Wishes from L.L

The Crossword

Hi,please don't mistake me with other people,I am not that sort of people who mock others under different names.I have read your other threads,i think you are quite a wise and funny guy.I really don't want to be attacked by a person whom i think i might be friends with.Yes ,I have a husband who is not my nation,but i never joined his nation for a better future.we are still struggling of finding a way of living in China.
This topic has led to a war,and i really don't want to make any enemies in this not-my-issue,esp.you Mr.Crossword. So here I am declaring that i am not Jesus,or Jerome,or be grateful,or etc,I was only trying to help that poor couple just like you did,so what do you think?
P.S I am standing here waiting for you coming here tomorrow with a bunch of flowers in your right hand.

ok...chillin'...

Thanks for the concern, but I don't think I'll be begging LL for a job anytime in this lifetime. She's got a passport and a husband now - it being nothing more than pure coincidence that when people iterate matters pertaining to their life they tend to do so in an order of decreasing relative importance - so I'm sure she can get along quite well without the likes of me.

I'm not sure what you have read into my post, but I can tell you that I've always found my Chinese employers to be be scrupulously honest in the matter of payment for work done, and have never encountered any of the problems that seem to beset others in this country from time to time, so I would have no call to "bad-mouth" any of them as you have so delicately put it.

hey thanks for the tip about the BA - is that one of them university type things or something?

the same person!~

Citizen is best,best is Jerome.
Jerome is Mr wang(Liao Ning Fu Shun Fei Fan School)

Hi,every foreigner teacher:

Don't go to this school.

Nan Nan

Shut up!

"sha bi"is you!~

"":

You think every woman the same your girlfriend,want your money..you should go home..she wait for you..want sex you...I hope you and your girlfriend have a good night!~

You can laugh at me ,my english is poor..but i don't care....

I love gary.do you understand?

what ??you no happy?gary and I together!~

don't worry!~If you take your girlfriend to your country..she will love you!~

Don't worry!~have good life in china!~

really easy

Sorry! I can't remember promising my girlfriend that I would take her to England .Don't give her any ideas. Lol!

I would ever believe something as asinine as that. I would like to hear from your girlfriend?

Fear and paranoia!

Sorry! I can't remember promising my girlfriend that I would take her to England .Don't give her any ideas. Lol!

As for fear of the "yellow peril" ,the only fear and paranoia seems to come from certain Chinese schools who seem to be afraid of a "black peril".

However you don't understand this, and likely never will.

What do you care anyway ,it probably doesn't affect you! Right? Me and my girlfriend will stay where we choose to ,thank you ,but thanks for your concern!

Gary

Dumbasses?

So you call yourself a smart ass from correcting other people's typing errors?If you put as much effort on your own job as a teacher,there would be no dumb asses ages ago.

English Schools in China! Sorry Changsha not guilty!

Okay! I know we have a good thing going here in China,as regards teaching ESL. However I have to make it clear that I was not mocking the said school in my earlier letter. I was just pointing out something, that was not just to me a blatant injustice,but something I thought might be of help to other ESL teachers in China .Does that mean I'm playing God? ,and could you also tell me where I said in my letter that I hate Chinese schools?I have had many responses to my application's for jobs ,asking me what my skin colour is .Could you tell me WHAT DOES SKIN COLOUR HAVE TO DO WITH TEACHING ESL IN CHINA!!.Don't you realise that many yellow people are discriminated against too? What gives Chinese Schools the write to be HORRIBLE!

I have, and never will beg for a job in my life !!As you indicated ,there are many countries where ESL can be taught.

I would like to say thank you to Zero Tolerance. I wish him all the best .Thank you too, to LL .I will be in touch soon!

Gary Borck

Before mocking other people,check your own tolerance first

The Crossword.
Before you try to prove how much tolerance other people have,ask yourself how much you have or whether you have any,if you had even 1% tolerance,you wouldn't have mocked everybody already.

Extension of Previous Policy

Hey, if you're not really Jesus, you're certainly doing a damn good speaking-in-tongues act here.

I managed to extract a little bit of meaning from your response - and I'm not sure what it was a response to - but nowhere in this entire thread have I seen anything from any of the posters saying that they dislike China one iota, never mind "hate it". The topic has not even been remotely mentioned, unless you're somehow making a connection between that and the complaints of a Chinese person upset at a certain individual over the treatment of her boyfriend. Anyway, she didn't tar all Chinese with same brush and I don't see why you seem so keen to do so.

Here's a tip for you: go and do another 3 years of intensive English study with professional teachers, then reread this thread and any of the messages on it again, and then respond.

Then at least it might appear to us that you at least understand a little of what you read, though time would only tell if you had the competence to actually comment on it.

And by the way - seeing as you brought the topic up -have you any idea how much Chinese people winge and whine and complain when they go to other countries? Have you? No you havent because youve hardly ever been anywhere and you know nothing. Well I can tell you that they do it just as much as everybody else.

Don't choke on your mooncake now.

Best of luck for your future studies!

love,

God (not playing)

Right

What you said is very right,the wisest posting on this issue.other people seem over-reacted ,maybe they are just obsessed with debates.

Chill Out

Hey,Chill out ,people,we do actually live on Chinese people's land and get paid by them,there are bad employers,but there are bad employers everywhere,at the moment,foreigners can pick the schools,but what will happen after 1 year?2 years?3 years? China is developing fast,and as I know,the laws of employing foreign teachers has been improved month by month,yes,I call it month by month,and from Jan.1st 2005 on,those foreigners who do not have a BA degree,who do not have work visas,who do not have a teaching certificate can not work in China anymore.You people should start worrying about whether you will get a job or not later on instead of mocking Chinese schools and Chinese people here,you may have to beg those schools who you badmouth now for a job in the near future.Always remember: Always leave yourself a way out!

zero tolerance

Jumpin' jehosophats! First we had some clown on here who can't string a coherent sentence together berating poor young Nan Nan for her efforts,then along came his illiterate support crew and now we are being subjected to even more sickening pretentiousness on the subject.

Listen you numbskulls, Nan Nan here expressed her concerns very clearly I thought. She wasn't claiming to able to express herself perfectly in English and she had a pretty good reason in mind for trying to express herself at all, which certainly wasn'nt just to try impress us as some others have tried so hard and yet failed so miserably to do. Here's some advice to you lot: give up.

As for Nan Nan and Garry: best of luck to you both; I'm sure you'll find something much better than what was on offer at the place you have had these problems with.

Before laughing at others', check your own mistakes first.

Hi,
Before laughing at others', check your own mistakes first. I don't think there was anything wrong with Nan-nan. Don't forget she was a student. She had the courage to defend her boy friend by using her limited language skills. If anybody's fault, that's Gary's. In China, "Once a teacher, always a teacher". That means he had the responsibility of correcting her mistakes in the process of learning. While some of you were mocking her for her mistakes, had you ever re-read your own writing? To be quite frankly speaking, among most of the post in the forum, lots of mistakes were treated as typing errors. I believe we all understand. Students need encouragements, not mockery.

Jerome

Yeah ha, you engrish is very gooder ha. She at least is trying and I understand her English.

BUT YOUR ENGRISSSHHHH IS REALLY VERY THE PATHETIC and yet you wanting to mocking other person YEAH.

YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO PEOPLE OF OUR PROFESSION. You must to going home and washing dishes at Mcdonalds. Maybe a Janitor working job fitting you.

Am I to beleive you are a native speaker???

If this is not a ruse and a real Chinese lady, then let me correct YOUR BAD English. So lets just entertain this little list shall we:

1) british boyfriend ---- British boyfriend (British is a proper noun)
2) Acctually I can't ---- Actually, (great spelling and lack of punctuation)
3) until i read ----- I (I should be capitalized the last time I checked)
4) posting.forgive ----- posting . Forgive ( punctuation and capitalization)

Ah hell, I think I stop counting. Only ignorant people find fault with others that learn their language. Indeed, I should think you still have to learn your own. This is the reason why I hate ESL: too many dumbasses in this profession.if you call it that.

Ciao

bad school in changsha fei fan!

Dear teacher:

My name is gou nan nan,I am from china.My boyfriend is from england..he is a native english teacher.He is a very good teacher..

He come to china 2 years already.before he teach in liao ning .and beijing morden english.he go to every school..the students like him very much.

In beijing..the students always want he came back,miss him...

Now,we are in yun nan..but have a problem..about changsha school..the shool want foreigner teacher..so gary send photo.tefl.passport ,every thing..

I don't understand the school.the teacher Mr wang ask gary..how height..and want send whole picture...

So I ask the school why.Mr wang say..
the students like tall and white person..If black and short ......students laugh at you..

I am chinese woman..I don't like chinese person do that...chinese person is yellow ..is not white.........most chinese person is short than foreiger....I don't think so it's students want teacher tall and white..I think it's school want....they want tall and white teacher go to his school...they will make money.they don't care students english change better.

Hi,Mr wang,I want to know what coulor you are .and how height you are..and are you handsome man!~I am a chinese .the same you ..i am yellow ...are you white?????If I meet you,I would fight you....you lost chinese person face...lost your school face!~~~

Don't forget ,You are a chinese ....don't lost china face...

If you go to the other country ..foreigner say:you are chinese ...you are a pig....I don't like yellow..are you happy????????

nan nan