Thank you CL. I dont see it as wasting time though, not really. If the OP from this thread reads something I have written, or something another person has written, and thinks, 'Actually, I could make a go of EFL/China', its not a waste of time at all. And for all the time I do spend on forums ... I do learn something too. 'The White House / articles' is a perfect example.

The 'banter' is just the downside to forums. I dont think either EG or I will change our stance, well ... not unless we meet in person LOL.