Re: Anyone heard of Hampson English

I like that river. Wonder if there are any fish in there? I can imagine myself drifting along there in a gondola with a Pattayan beauty and giving here a gift box of gold earrings, lol!

Fishes galore!

Yes, know where you're coming from with these young Asian stunners....but not much between the ears maybe and by the time the river gets to this stage you'll need something deeper to bounce your ideas off, which is why I suggested the partner I did? What do you think?

Re: Anyone heard of Hampson English

I like that river. Wonder if there are any fish in there? I can imagine myself drifting along there in a gondola with a Pattayan beauty and giving here a gift box of gold earrings, lol!

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Maybe you are right in a way. A former student of mine once told me that Chinese people are uneducated and stupid so can't embrace democracy. Perhaps he was on the money.

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Not saying China can't change. If they embrace democracy and welcome foreigners like in Thailand or the Philippines they will be much better off.

Oh I don't know ,SB. If we are looking for a unified China they probably have the very best government possible. The Chinese most probably need to be governed with a rod of iron. I think if the Chinese were allowed to embrace anything more political that a plate of dumplings, then China would be a very unsafe place indeed.

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Taffy, I've been divorced three times. Statute of limitations time for me.

Hope you're enjoying your freedom then. You get to spend halcyon days punting down The River Cam, with a SB, a new pair of earnings glistening in the moonlight. Hao bu bloody hao? Pipe dream ,eh?

Re: Anyone heard of Hampson English

The fact is that any foreigner in China is always a "guest" or "visitor"
and is never welcome.

I would dispute that a foreigner is "never welcome" in China.
But yes, China is a racially unified nation where full integration is impossible.
I would not, however, prefer to be a Palestinian in Israel or a Libtard in West Virginia.

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Yes, the UK and Australia should stop handing out visas to every Tom, Dick,and Harry. And no more Muslim immigration for sure!

Any group that thinks homosexuals and women are second class citizens should be sent home and any Western passports withdrawn.

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The fact is that any foreigner in China is always a "guest" or "visitor" and is never welcome.

It makes no difference if you are married to a Chinese or worked there for 10 years.

Any non-Chinese person is always an outsider in China regardless of their visa status.

Has to be true because of all the argy-bargy renewing your visa. On the other hand perhaps we can learn something from the Chinese since we hand out visas like confetti.

Re: Anyone heard of Hampson English

Interestingly, your wife fails to rank family as one of three three "pillars" of Chinese society.
You might wonder which of her three "pillars" motivated her to marry a foreigner.

Tell a Friend

No, the mention of family can be a sensitive word. The wife's family will never really accept that ugly foreign ape. He's seen as a sort of nodule a carbuncle that's attached itself to the healthy Chinese family. I don't know about Western women who marry Chinese men? Have you ever thought about wedding a Chinese bloke, Trumpsey?

Re: Anyone heard of Hampson English

Well, I've read a lot of vitriol here, about Hampson, most of which is years old... so maybe consider this an update and another opinion.

I think many people have the wrong impression of what teaching in China is like.

First, I've lived in China for about 2 years, and taught in a different training center in Beijing and now at Hampson, in Chengdu. Holding back wages is common in many companies here and not just with foreigners.

Second, the three "pillars" of Chinese society in general are: (as my wife puts it) money, education, and business, not necessarily in that order.

My hourly at Hampson is 180 or just over 26$US. And my demos are one on one. My classes are one on one and small groups usually 3 to 5. And my salary (part-time) hasn't been held back.

I chose Hampson because this location's office is very good and so is the work environment, and VERY busy especially on weekends. Plus, I specialize in one on one instruction anyway.

The sales team is very helpful in acquiring new students in my case, so far.

I can't speak for the company prior to 2016, but, I really can't accept the anger and "hatred" for the company that I've read here, unless they have changed their policies in a MASSIVE way. Some teachers here (full-time) and staff have worked here for 5-8 years. The only thing I can agree on is that policies for the same company are ALMOST ALWAYS different from city to city in China.

Maybe my opinion will change after I've worked here longer, but so far so good. That's my experience anyway.

I have to add, that venting your spleen about any school or employer is common, no company is perfect; but I've also read here, to paraphrase; that schools, style, conditions, wages, and materials aren't like back home.

Well, what did you expect?

And as an English teacher with private, classroom, and business classroom experience; I take exception to the comments about prep time. If you have trouble prepping for a 50 minute ESL lesson, anywhere; then maybe you should look at your own training or choice of career. 'Nuff said.

Re: China: Anyone heard of Hampson English

Are you on a Z visa or any other visa in China? Did Hamspon provide you with the documents to apply for a Z visa in your home country and did they sponsor your residence permit or the like?

I highly doubt that they ever did. If that really is the case, you do not have to worry: If you decide not to work for them - ans I would urgently advise you not to do that! - you can throw their "contract" away without fearing anything. They would employ you illegally, and they might not be pleased to hear from you that you don't work or them. But they can't do anything against you as otherwise they would have to admit to employ foreigners illegally. And the Chinese authorities concerned like immigration would not find that particularly funny.

I suggest you look somewhere else. And good luck!

Re China: Anyone heard of Hampson English

Here's another interesting fact about Hampson schools which I haven't seen mentioned anywhere yet.

For those of us unlucky enough to have worked/be working there, I am sure people must have noticed the quality of the teaching materials they procure...

What I mean is this. They have books by Longman/Pearson, Cambridge Uni Press etc. right. Very often I have opened a book and found it to be very badly printed, pages upside down, missing, printed offset or not cut properly. I have also noticed some of the books displaying another schools logo, then another, then another depending on which box they came from. Also the CD's have sometimes looked like something you bought from a street vendor. I have even had students come back telling me the lesson they tried to complete was not on the CD!!!!

Now I am pretty sure someone like Cambridge and Longman are not so unprofessional as to constantly issue material in this state so what is going on. I figured it out, or at least I have two working theories.

They are either forgeries being printed up in some back street printers and sold on or they are rejects which are being sent back because of all the errors.

I think the latter as that would explain why Hampson have books with New Orientals logo on them, then sometimes other training centers. In the UK these books would probably be recycled. In China of course people are not going to throw away the means to make a fast buck and must be selling them on to places like this at a cheaper price.

The other thing of course is that we all know that Hampson sell those books to the students at full price. Full price for a badly printed mess which may or may not have the additional material required to complete the course. Nice!!! Its comforting to know that they put so much care and thought into their students lessons.

WORKED THERE - HATED IT - HATED THEM - LEFT THEM - NEVER HAPPIER

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I bet you wouldn't make such tactless remarks in front of a group of Chinese who could understand you.

WELL WHY NOT!! Chinese make remarks about the "wai guo ren" without comprehending we can understand their pidgin mandarin, some foreigners speak Mandarin better than some Chinese people, especially the southerners....

Re Anyone heard of Hampson English

So can anyone tell me if there are any reputable training schools in China, or indeed Asia. After browsing this forum it doesn't appear to be the case.

I am considering coming to China in September. I have worked in ESL in the UK for many years but since the government has made significant changes to immigration laws as far as the level of English language is concerned my services are not in demand and work is much harder to come by.

I have a degree in English Language (BA) and a CELTA TEFL certificate as well as Key Stage. What are the best cities? And more importantly what are the best places to work?

TIA

Re China: Anyone heard of Hampson English

THESE HAMPSON PEOPLE ARE LIARS, AND LIE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO BREAK THE LAW.

No, we is no liar, our nice schooool velly, velly honest and always speak truth.
Please not do slander name of my good schoooooool, and if you make more slander of my good schooool more, we will open other goood schoool with always also speak truth.

My good schoool so nice, we have cage for white monkeys for work in muppet show!!!!!!

Yes, at Rubbish Hamster always speak truth!

If not true, then the only truth - we are rubbish, rubbish, rubbish!

Always this is truth----Yes!!!

Re China: Anyone heard of Hampson English

I worked in Chongqing at Hampsons, we were told no foreign expert certs or visas were needed. 6 months later the police raided the place and hauled 3 of the foreign teachers to the police station. THESE HAMPSON PEOPLE ARE LIARS, AND LIE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO BREAK THE LAW.
STAY AWAY FROM THEM THEY ARE CRIMINALS.

They can pay *bribe* to save their own ass but will sell you down the river. They gave no assistance to us after the police took us.

Gary

Re Anyone heard of Hampson English

This post was helpful but the party about 'gibberish dialect such as cantonese' was a bit unneccesary.
Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it's gibberish!

Re Anyone heard of Hampson English

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Thank you for your interest in Hampson! With so many evaluations of Hampson (whether positive or negative), this is an indication of Hampsons size and popularity.

Allow me to highlight a few figures regarding Hampson and address a few often discussed issues.

1, Hampson just turned 9 years old
2, Hampson has a total of 19 campuses located across 11 major cities. Each year Hampson continues to expand throughout China
3, We currently employ more than 700 foreign teachers. (Our large staff is a result of Hampson only offering 1 to 1 English educational services)

Hampson is the first organization, in China, specifically designed to provide one on one education by only hiring foreign instructors. We are not perfect and there are still many aspects our management team are constantly trying to improve on. But we can guarantee that Hampsons management is reasonable. We will not undermine our reputation by over a mere 1500RMB deposit. This 1500RMB deposit is always refunded unless a teacher seriously breaches the contract terms.

The Hampson organization is constantly growing and improving. We understand that some previous teachers were irate without their deposit withheld, thus posting negative comments about our organization and management staff. Please be assured that all of the previous teachers, who had their deposit withheld, had seriously breached our contract terms for this to occur. Over the last 9 years employing over thousands of foreign teachers, we have encountered some foreign teachers who have not fully cooperated with us, but a great majority continues to work flawlessly and harmoniously at our organization.

If you want to truly understand what its like working with Hampson, we recommend that you contact some of our currently teachers and hear their views. Feel free to swing by any weekday evening or weekend at any of our 19 campuses. They will be glad to share their views

We welcome any feedback you have for us. We continuously strive to improve or school for both our students and teachers. Feel free to e-mail us at: hampson.edu @ 163.com

Re Anyone heard of Hampson English

Thank you for your interest in Hampson! With so many evaluations of Hampson (whether positive or negative), this is an indication of Hampsons size and popularity.

Allow me to highlight a few figures regarding Hampson and address a few often discussed issues.

1, Hampson just turned 9 years old
2, Hampson has a total of 19 campuses located across 11 major cities. Each year Hampson continues to expand throughout China
3, We currently employ more than 700 foreign teachers. (Our large staff is a result of Hampson only offering 1 to 1 English educational services)

Hampson is the first organization, in China, specifically designed to provide one on one education by only hiring foreign instructors. We are not perfect and there are still many aspects our management team are constantly trying to improve on. But we can guarantee that Hampsons management is reasonable. We will not undermine our reputation by over a mere 1500RMB deposit. This 1500RMB deposit is always refunded unless a teacher seriously breaches the contract terms.

The Hampson organization is constantly growing and improving. We understand that some previous teachers were irate without their deposit withheld, thus posting negative comments about our organization and management staff. Please be assured that all of the previous teachers, who had their deposit withheld, had seriously breached our contract terms for this to occur. Over the last 9 years employing over thousands of foreign teachers, we have encountered some foreign teachers who have not fully cooperated with us, but a great majority continues to work flawlessly and harmoniously at our organization.

If you want to truly understand what its like working with Hampson, we recommend that you contact some of our currently teachers and hear their views. Feel free to swing by any weekday evening or weekend at any of our 19 campuses. They will be glad to share their views

We welcome any feedback you have for us. We continuously strive to improve or school for both our students and teachers. Feel free to e-mail us at: hampson.edu @ 163.com

Re Anyone heard of Hampson English

Avoid Chengdu, too big and polluted. But the main reason for doing so is that there are too many foreigners there, giving the upper hand to Chinese employers in salary negotiations; much better in Luzhou or Hejiang or out in the sticks somwhere else in Sichuan - the cost of living is much lower there, as are the teaching standards you'd be expected to meet not to be fired. Besides, replacements are much harder to find for employers in the small cities and towns. I can't understand why so many foreigners head for the big Chinese cities with their rat race characteristics, they'll never learn.

Re Anyone heard of Hampson English

Now we know what happens when mental hospitals in the area do not have the budget to take care of their patients, they send them to work at [edited] hamster!!

Re Anyone heard of Hampson English

Seems like there have been a good many of us ripped off by Hampson and other bull@hit schools.
I really find it amusing that the Chinese government continues to allow this to happen, or are they turning a blind eye to the high level of corruption within the Education system ?
if China wants to become a true super power then it has some issues that is needs to sort out, and this is one such issue.
Here we have a nation that has risen from poverty in recent years and now become the second in economic growth in the world, but still has no idea how to do many things correctly. it's sad to say but it's the truth.
there is a lack of TRUST, GOOD MANNERS, and RESPECT to name a few.

The Chinese are well known for wanting to make fast money, nothing wrong with that. in fact I think most us do, but do it the right way.
those who are corrupt and greedy ,always lose much more than they could have gained, but they don't see the long term gains. only the short term gains of ripping off people.
No doubt Hampson and other crap schools will have to change their tactics, such as change their name or try some other avenue to rip of people.
the Chinese still have a very long way to go. they are still learning, still a developing Nation.
they have their history to thank for much of the way they are today. until they can learn and be allowed to change some of their ideals then a lot of these problem are not going to be resolved.

most of these [edited] schools have at least one teacher who is the typical groveler and sometimes acts on their behalf, know what I mean. I have seen it and a lot more. it really is an experience to behold.
it is surprising what one learns, just by looking and listening.
OH, and for the groveling weasels who defend such [edited] schools, I say this, please don't go forth and multiply, but please go forth and fade away, the real world can do well without you.

Re Anyone heard of Hampson English

I didn't inquire about Hampton... Everything i read say's " stay away " nuf said

Re Anyone heard of Hampson English

anyone have a QQ or email for the PSB in Guangzhou ? Their site email is wrong ..

Re Anyone heard of Hampson English

I see the Hampson school of crap continues to make headlines, and no doubt a few more unsuspecting teachers who have not got their money.
it's nothing new in China to be screwed like this.
just a few weeks ago I heard of a Hampson boss who was so desperate to make fast money that he auditioned for a part in a porn movie, he was later arrested by the police and went on trial for unlawful sexual intercourse with a sheep under the age of eighteen.
his excuse was, his Hampson school was not making enough money to pay the teachers wages and he thought this would be a good way to help supplement his crappy school.
it was unlikely the sheep was fit for human consumption after the assault .

Re: Get real!

good posts
Chengdu FT and Silverboy.

One only needs to look on the internet here and there seems to be an abundance of posts regarding Hampson.
now surely all these people can't be telling lies.

another interesting link here for anyone who wishes to check out.

http://www.thebeijinger.com/forum/2010/03/16/Hampson-English-wont-give-me-MY-money-back-0

seems that a certain school will not give back money ?

I rest my case.

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I for one would like to see more genuine people here who have something good to write about hampson

Something tells me not actually.

there was an incident where a western teacher was attacked, I was told of this not so long ago. 

Oh well if you were 'told' then of course, it must be true. Including any details surrounding the matter, they couldn't have possibly have changed could they. Forgive me, I stand corrected, how on Earth can anyone argue with something they were 'told' but never actually witnessed....

I have never heard of hampson paying sick pay.
I have never heard of Hampson taking teachers or staff for outings.
never heard of them paying for a flight home.

Guess what? You have have now.

You know, I have never seen as many posts by an individual on such a matter in my life, it's as if you have dedicated the entire remainder of you life towards trying to cause trouble for a company, pathetic!! And I am not just saying hat because it's where I work, anyone with half a brain will know what I mean. You clearly have an unhealthy obsessive nature about you, or at least in regards to this particular matter, I am actually a little concerned.

The way you are posting you would think that you were campaigning to keep a paedophile behind bars or something. I seriously think you need to get on with living your life my friend.

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Chengdu FT and Get real.
Here is a typical Hampson contract.
I have seen 4 different hampson contracts, the Chinese often make changes,
nice posts by you both, but I'm sure there will be more threads by one or two others who seem to know it all.
there was an incident where a western teacher was attacked, I was told of this not so long ago.
I have never heard of hampson paying sick pay.
I have never heard of Hampson taking teachers or staff for outings.
never heard of them paying for a flight home.
I for one would like to see more genuine people here who have something good to write about hampson. yes, that is possible having just written this. we could suddenly see more new threads appear!
they do have a high turn over of teachers, but I and some others here are talking rubbish, again, we must give the defence the benifit of the doubt.
the name on the contract has been removed, it is genuine !!

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Chengdu FT and Get real.
Here is a typical Hampson contract.
I have seen 4 different hampson contracts, the Chinese often make changes,
nice posts by you both, but I'm sure there will be more threads by one or two others who seem to know it all.
there was an incident where a western teacher was attacked, I was told of this not so long ago.
I have never heard of hampson paying sick pay.
I have never heard of Hampson taking teachers or staff for outings.
never heard of them paying for a flight home.
I for one would like to see more genuine people here who have something good to write about hampson. yes, that is possible having just written this. we could suddenly see more new threads appear!
they do have a high turn over of teachers, but I and some others here are talking rubbish, again, we must give the defence the benifit of the doubt.
the name on the contract has been removed, it is genuine !!

Re: Get real!

Chengdu FT
nice post !!
Thank you .
so many negitive posts regarding Hampson training School.
please excuse my crap grammer, I have had a few drinks this evening and it's not the best.
there are some English teachers who don't mind being jerked around.
how would 95 yuan per 50 minutes sound to you. well I have worked for that silly money.
teachers should take a good look on the internet and not feel afraid to ask questions,certainly don't believe all you see and hear.
a friend of mine contacted me this evening and sent me a link for hampson, his words were, they seem to be pretty desperate for teachers.
tianjinrobbie, seems to be the only person to write anything good about hampson, apart from Jinta who has also just made his first post here. Jinta sounds African.I may be wrong.
it also appears that hampson don't care what Country your from . if you speak English then thats fine.
I remember my old boss once saying to me, when you can't get good staff, then you sometimes have to make do with any sh@t.
maybe tianjinrobbie works for a better branch of hampson, but I know for a fact in some of the hampson schools there are a some teachers who are not what they say they are.
I do not wish to say any more right now but wait and see if there are others who have anything more to add here.
like I said in an earlier post, I still find it very strange that suddenly after so much has been written here concerning hampson English , someone has come forward with something good to say about Hampson.
so if there are any teachers out there, or someone who knows of someone who works for or has worked for this school, then perhaps you can post your remarks here.

what you see written below is true.

Example two, Physically assaulting teachers! Yes the male manager of the Chengdu branch physically assaulted a female foreign teacher. The other foreign teachers had to break up the fight. Then the manager told the staff NOT to call the police. Eventually a parent of the students called the police.

Don't believe me? Want to accuse me of libel. Fine go to the police station and read the police report.

Example three, massive turn over! Schools that change their staff completely twice a year. With the sole exception of tianjinrobbie.

Example four, with holding money from people's pay. Not 100% sure about this but reasonalbly sure it is illegal. Most people leave jobs due to problems with management or managers and only occasionally for more money. Why do they have such a big turnover problem?

Recently a lot of teachers have left and I am sure they will be posting additional reasons of incidents of why they left.

Of all the posts on this thread and the one over at Dave's ESL cafe only tianjinrobbie had anything good to say. Maybe he is just an easy going guy and doesn't mind being jerked around, perhaps the tianjin branch is professional, and perhaps monkeys will fly out of my arse.

Please read this thread and the one in the link above before you make a judgement.

Re: Get real!

Example number one lying in your recruitment advertisements.

Elaborate

Example two, Physically assaulting teachers! Yes the male manager of the Chengdu branch physically assaulted a female foreign teacher. The other foreign teachers had to break up the fight. Then the manager told the staff NOT to call the police. Eventually a parent of the students called the police.

Well there are always two sides to every story, and considering you even state that you only went through the interview process at Hampson, never actually worked there, it is fair to say that you are passing on what you have heard, that it is heresay and may have never even happened. I won't accuse you of libel but I do accuse you of involving yourself in Chinese whispers, and hey, for the sake of it actually being true, lets condemn the entire network of branches for the actions of one person why don't we. Whilst we are at it, I got my pocket picked a while back by someone Chinese, shall we condemn the whole of China for it and tell people not to come here, by your logic everyone in China, including my wife and kids are thieves. Shall we continue to condemn all Germans for the holocaust? I have nothing more to say on that matter.

Example three, massive turn over! Schools that change their staff completely twice a year. With the sole exception of tianjinrobbie.

Yet another uninformed statement, how do you know the exact 'turn over' of staff at all the Hampson branches? You have stated you know nothing about the branch I work for and perhaps they are professional. You say you are in ChengDu and that is where you interviewed but declined the job. Hampson have many branches located across China, are you physically visiting them all and keeping tabs on every FT that works for the entire network of Hampson branches and monitoring the turn over?
I work for Hampson and even I cannot say what the turn over of FT's is across China. What I can say is that I know a number of FT's that have worked at Hampson longer than I, which includes other branches in Beijing.
Hampson often get some FT's that work part time through the school holidays, so in that respect yes teachers come and go, I think you need to do a proper fact check here before making rash statements that have no weight behind them.

Example four, with holding money from people's pay. Not 100% sure about this but reasonalbly sure it is illegal. Most people leave jobs due to problems with management or managers and only occasionally for more money.

First of all, they do not withhold money from peoples pay, when you get your contract you will be directed to a clause in your contract which stipulates that Hampson will take a deposit from you first salary. It states the reason why and states when you will get it back again. It is not illegal, you are signing to agree to it in your contract for one thing and therefore giving consent. Secondly, if such an act was illegal, then every employer in the United Kingdom is breaking the law by making you work a week or a month in hand and paying the first wage/salary upon you leaving the company. Western companies use the week/month in hand clause to ensure you do not simply break your contract and leave without giving the company the required period of notice, if you do, they don't have to pay you that money. Explain what the difference is, because the only difference I see is that opposed to holding your entire salary back for the first month, like a western company does, they hold back a small percentage. Lets do the math, no salary for the first month, a little but of your salary held back for the first month............Hmmmmmmmmm my brain hurts. Using the same statement you opened your post with 'GET REAL' That is the way companies operate in general and using such a fact to try and make Hampson look bad makes it look like you have never actually spent any time working for a company before. I think anyone coming to China who has worked in their own country for any period of time, most certainly in the UK will understand and accept someone holding part of your first salary back.

Recently a lot of teachers have left

Have they now, and would you like to elaborate further on that statement too? How many? Where were they working? Or is this just another assumption?

Look mate, I really don't wanna fall out with you and I am not trying to purposely antagonise you, but so far I see no examples put forward that have any weight whatsoever. Everything is based on heresay and further more you are cherry picking.

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tianjinrobbie

In all due respects you have written lots of interesting things about Hampson.
I have said what I wanted and have no wish to continue.
it seems very strange that this thread started way back last year and it has taken until now for someone to come forward and write anything good about Hampson.
maybe we will see who else has any good words for this school.
could it be that Hampson has changed, after reading so many negitive threads.
we will have to wait to see the outcome and any other comments that anyone else may wish to add here.
two of my mates once worked for them and wished they had never gone there,they found the place a nightmare.
you may be a genuine person, but on the other hand , maybe not.
I for one find it very hard to believe all the positive things you have written here about Hampson having read and heard so much on the negitive side.perhaps there are more guys like you out there who may come forward to back you up, we shall see in due course.
you may have the last word, but I shall not comment because we both have our own opinions and enough has been said, so maybe others wish to add to what has been said.
I am finished with you too.
goodbye

I cannot comment on anything anyone else has experienced mate, only on what I have found to be the case. Who knows if anyone else will comment, to be honest, it generally tends to be negative comments that make the web as opposed to positive ones, or at least the balance is in favour of the negative, usually because someone is angry. Believe me when I say, if things changed and I got screwed, am not opposed to eat a large helping of humble pie with a dollop of told you so custard, and I will happily allow you to spoon feed me every mouthful.

In regards to this thread, I honestly only found it accidentally. I posted a review, as you have seen, on the eslcafe board after seeing someone was asking for details on Hampson. After which, I deleted my history in my browser, so I had to do a Google search to find the board again, it was then I saw part of one of your comments in the list, so intrigued, I followed the link and had a read.

I have posted here before, but had not seen the Hampson thread before. I know you still presume I am simply posting on Hampsons behalf and all I can say is that is not the case. There is not a great deal I can say or do to prove that obviously, so you, and for that matter anyone else reading these posts will just have to take my word on it.

As I have said already though, it is always good advice for any FT, never to take anything they read on the net about a prospective employer at face value. Comments both positive and negative are always worth the time to read, but should always be taken with a pinch of salt and then investigated and researched by the individual by asking questions and examining contractual details, allowing them to make a fully informed decision.

As I said, lets agree to disagree and let people read and then investigate for themselves.

Re: Anyone heard of Hampson English

because most people with good morals and values, would never stoop to such low levels trying to defend what is not true

But it is true Smiler, that's just the thing mate. I don't know in which capacity you were employed at Hampson, part time I assume, but this is the full time contract and agreement. Part time teachers do not get paid for cancelled classes unless of course they are cancelled on the day they were to take place, full time teachers are getting a fixed set salary for a set amount of hours so it makes no difference at all to them.

Part time teachers do not get sick pay, if they are ill they loose money because they don't teach. Full timers still get their salary, you have to provide proof of a hospital/doctor visit which sure, can be a pain in the arse when you are simply, generally ill and just wanted to stay in bed and get better, but at least you still get paid. If you were to fall ill on the day however, as was the case for me recently, then you 'may' I repeat 'may' loose some money. When this just happened to me, one student had arrived at the centre and I was unable to continue teaching, I paid them 100RMB for the class, that's pretty fair in my opinion, my other students were informed and I paid nothing. Considering most recruiters won't pay you squat if you are off ill even as a full time teacher, I think Hampsons deal is quite appealing.

Food Allowance, ok this is nothing to write home about. Every so many months you get a package arrives from Beijing full of whatever they bought for everyone. Nuts, Snacks and whatever, usually around the 150/200RMB mark each. They used to simply ask what you wanted and then someone at your centre would do some shopping for everyone, now they supply this instead. Not always suitable if you don't like what has been bought, but then they don't have to do this, it's a gesture and one which I am happy of. We have a saying where I come from "It's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick!".

Accommodation, no there is no accommodation supplied here. Tell me Smiler, have you ever seen a school offering 'free' accommodation before that was not paying you less than those who do not take the so called free accommodation? So do the math, it's not f@@king free is it. What you in fact get is some of the shittiest and lowest standard apartments around. Often shared and sometimes in the most remote parts of the city so they can keep the cost down. Most FT's end up leaving eventually and look for their own apartment anyway, so who gives a damn about free accommodation. Hampson tend to employ FT's who are already in China, I bet you'd get some help if you were still in the west and arriving here.

Visa, my working permit and FEC are in the process of being renewed as I speak. Were obtained by Hampson last year and I am on the correct one, starting with a Z visa as I returned to China and then a residency permit and FEC. Any questions ?????

Contract, not sure if it was one of your complaints but I read somewhere here about Hampson NOT stamping their contracts, Mines stamped, theres a big red company chop on each page. I will photograph and post it up if you like.

Deposit, so they take a deposit. How many companies in the education sector are in the position of actually taking legal action against a laowai for breach of thir contract? Very few is the answer, it takes so long for things to filter through the labour courts that by that time, they may have left the country, moved on to another city, anything. Hampson are understandably a little sick of crap FT's coming along, and when they get bored, find the grass is greener elsewhere, leave without the courtesy of even telling them. I take it you are from the UK? Ever heard of working week or a month in hand? What happens if you up and leave without giving the company the required period of notice stated in your contract? Answer, you loose you week/month in hand. I have seen so many fresh out of school teenagers rolling back in to a company and screaming blue bloody murder because they feel badly done to after not receiving theirs when they broke their contractual agreement. I get the feeling that many laowai here are the same, unable to find employment in their own country due to the current economic climate they come over here to teach. Have no previous experience of work and expect everything in their favour. The deposit simply goes some way to ensuring that most laowai do not take the piss, it's a fair, logical and completely acceptable clause in my opinion.

Bonus, yes they do pay 3 bonuses a year to the full time FT actually. 1st after 6 months, 2nd and 3rd after the 12th month. The 2nd and 3rd could be counted as just one larger bonus as you get them at the same time, but nevertheless there are still three bonuses. Bonus is exactly what it says it is, a bonus. Just like bonus you earn in a western company you have to meet certain criteria to receive it. When I earned bonus in the UK, failure to meet target resulted in failure to earn bonus, the same thing applies here, and at least Hampson have the decency to recalculate it and pay you a percentage of the bonus if you fail to meet the criteria that is stated in your contract. Most western companies have something like a 90% or higher target rate to get a reduced bonus, anything below that and your shit out of luck.

Holiday pay, full time teachers get all national holidays paid plus additional two weeks paid holiday. The last school I worked for did no such thing. When the holidays arrived you were out of pocket. The school holiday periods for an FT are much longer than the school is closed in most cases to, because many schools do not need the FT to come in during the lead up to the holidays, or for that matter initially just after. That means most FT's have a significant period of technically unemployment. Another point worth making is that many of the recruiters do not want you working anywhere else at any time either. So even though many do, you are really supposed to be sat on your arse, twiddling your thumbs during this time. I was lucky when last in that position, I had a Chinese family to help out. Many teachers are left high and dry with rent and food to pay for and no income.

No one can deny that for some, working in a part time capacity at any training centre has its drawbacks when compared to a typical school/recruiter contract, why do you think I didn't take the part time deal. I see many FT's who have to jump between one centre and and another to ensure a steady work flow, but that is the nature of the beast. Having a family myself, I certainly did not want all the hassle of having to do that so chose to work full time and it suits me just fine.

Any more questions ?

Re: Anyone heard of Hampson English

the answer to your question my young friend, you shall never know

I know very well, as does anyone who has or does read the vast majority of your comments. My eldest son has a better spelling and grammar ability than you have shown here, and he's still a pre-teen!

regarding teacher qualifications, I can assure you, mine are higher than yours.

Maybe they are, but then I gained mine through legitimate means, attending a British university, as well as my degree of course. I have no idea exactly which credentials you have in your possession and don't particularly care. One thing stands out like a white filling in a mouth full of rotten teeth though, they can only be fake however high they are, the illiteracy in many of your posts proves that fact beyond any doubt.

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Let me just clarify, you are saying you're an English teacher, right?

" HAPPEN TO MENTON. "

"beggers believe "

If that's the best you can do then God help any of your student's too, an English teacher that cannot spell, that works...

Listen fella, it's pretty clear to myself and anyone reading this, that you are on a mission. Nothing anyone is going to say to you is going to change your opinion or calm you down if it doesn't conform or fit nicely into your plan of destruction.

I asked you in my previous post if it was even remotely possible you could slow down and actually string together some specific reasons as to why you are so pissed off with Hampson, your response, to scream and shout some more and attack me.

If you are unable to control yourself, even for the short amount of time it would take you to write a civilized post then bollocks to you, life is too short. It makes absolutely no difference to me at the end of the day, nor for that matter is it going to make any difference to Hampson either, given the way you have chosen to deal with any issues you have with them.

Anyone with the slightest level of intelligence can clearly see you are a volatile and disruptive person, prone to immature and childish bursts of anger and not the kind of person you would want working for you in any capacity.

If however you would like to calm down and prove me wrong about your personality, then please try and post something a little more dignified, otherwise, middle finger raised, I salute you sir!

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Hello Hampson.
I am still waiting for a reply from you, but please do not hurry.
I understand your operations more than you would like known.

here we have yet another internet link.

http://www.asiajobs77.com/Native_English_teachers_wanted_in_hangzhou-369268.html

the quest to expose corrupt people is resentless.

I know your GUILTY. you know your guilty, that is why you do not wish to give truthful answers.
you are only interested in taking money from Chinese students, this is done by promising them that they will learn good English.
I know this is not true, due to a number of reasons, lack of correct books, computers, other materials, also qualified English teachers.
your methods are to lie to student candidates in the hope that they are stupid enough to sign your silly contracts.
your teacher contracts are just as pathetic, in fact, I have got one of them. they are not worth the paper they are written on.
certainly not good enough to wipe your backside with. no proper stamp. full of all sorts of crap.
Teachers can end up paying more back to you than they earn . you do not have an answer for this, do you.

there is a saying, I quote. YOU CAN FOOL SOME OF THE PEOPLE, ALL OF THE TIME. BUT YOU CANNOT FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE, ALL OF THE TIME.

I am not finished !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello Smiler, I would be the person you so maturely call an arse licker who posted on the eslcafe board. Thank you for your enlightening theories and opinions regarding myself and my post regarding my experience at Hampson, oh and not forgetting your assumption that I would sell my own mother, thank you for that too, allow me to retort!

First of all, how old are you? Seriously!!!!! After reading some of the comments you have been posting on here, sorry but you come across as someone aged about 12 years old, and if you are older, which clearly you obviously must be if you are over here teaching, you should be ashamed of yourself. Again, I am sorry about that buddy but come on!!! Step back, calm down, take a few deep breaths and look at what you are actually saying in some of your posts, not to mention the overall impression you give to others reading them. They are not factual, do not explain anything in any specific detail, they only go to show you are extremely angry and frustrated with Hampson, possibly obsessed and looking for revenge. No evidence to back anything up, nothing, and if there is then I apologise, I have overlooked such a post so please re quote it for me. It's one thing to post up your bad experiences with a school, or company of any nature, with facts and researchable information in a generally dignified manner for the benefit of others who may follow in your footsteps, it's another to simply start throwing around abusive and childish comments the way you appear to be doing.

The earliest post I can see under your username is the 21st of July. in that post you basically appear to attack Hampson for no other reason than the type of business that they are overall. Is that your entire problem, you do not like the training centre medium? Then how about launching a full scale attack on all the other training centres that exist in China too like New Oriental, Todds, Wall Street, Oxford Street and so on, they are all the same, operating the same kind of business, have the same kind of contract and so on.

Don't get me wrong here, I am not unaccustomed to shooting down a school in flames for being a set of c@@ts, far from it in fact. The last place I worked at were just that and very nearly cost me my future in China after they conveniently cancelled my f@@king working permit without telling me, it was pure luck that the PSB did not catch me out, fine and deport me. After that happened, I posted plenty of juicy details about their operation, many of which are on this very board, but I did so in a mature manner, posting their statements along with researchable and provable facts. One thing I certainly did not do was start posting immature comments about taking FT's and/or students out to eat dog meat, and additionally making comments like 'flied lice' What the hell is that all about? o_O
You say something like that in one post and yet in an earlier post state you do not have a problem with Chinese people!!! No, clearly not, just offend them from the shadows on your computer. Sorry but that is honestly the way your posts are coming across to me, you offend me making comments like that as my wife and my children are Chinese. Your intention is to inform people why Hampson is such a piss poor place to work and give people the benefit of your experience yes , yet you help to destroy any form of credibility by doing things like this as well as piss other people off who are Chinese or married to someone who is Chinese.

My experience with Hampson has been a good one, so I can say nothing else really can I, you can sit there and make assumptions that I am getting a back hander on the payrole, slipping one up the manager, whatever the f@@k you like for all I care, fact is you are wrong but we can go around in circles with that forever.

You can sit there and assume what the hell you like about me, makes no difference at all but you are doing yourself no favours whatsoever by acting like some naughty scolded child stamping his feet and spewing abusive comments that seem to have no specific purpose bar that of releasing your pent up tension and anger.

Most people will take one look and make the assumption that you are a typical 'backpacker' type teacher, of which there are many in China, who is attempting a hatchet job for all the wrong reasons.

Over to you anyway

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I work for Hampson, I have worked there for over a year now. I am on a full time contract, set 40 hrs with a set salary. I get 3 bonuses a year taking the yearly income up much higher as well as the following benefits:

- Sick Pay
- Paid National Holidays plus an additional two weeks paid holiday which I use for visiting home (I can take an additional two weeks unpaid if required)
- Visa/Working Permit/FEC Paid For
- A Food Allowance every 3 months (this is nothing special, just a couple of hundred RMB of junk, snacks and things - Although the manager at my outlet said they used to just pay the staff the money to buy what they wanted and is trying to get them to revert back to that way of doing things)
- No deductions for classes cancelled by the student as full time, and no deductions for classes cancelled by myself provided its within a reasonable timescale - i.e I let them know before the student has set off to the school.

Overall I am very happy with them, they are pretty fair compared to some places around. They do not enforce a strict dress code like for example "Wall Street English" do, so you do not have to wear a shirt and tie or anything. The staff all speak pretty good English and are great fun to work with.

We go on staff outings a couple of times a year, to the beach, to a restaurant. wherever really. The one on one teaching is fairly easy and if you do run into any issues with your students, Hampson are pretty good at helping out and solving the problems.

It is true that they take an initial deposit from your first wage. You can thank other FT's for this, Hampson have had many FT's simply decide to stop turning up, take another job without any notice or leave China without a word. That leaves Hampson in the position of having angry students turn up for classes with no teacher available and this sometimes results in loosing the business and Hampson in the position of not being able to do anything about it. The idea is that if they take a deposit from you, you are more likely to play ball and take a little responsibility as a teacher, if you decide to leave you will give them some notice, allowing them to find another teacher before you go. In my opinion, I think its pretty fair, you do get the money back again when you leave.

It's also true as a part time teacher that you will have to come in and give some free demo classes to get some students. It is not a school, it is a training centre. Training centres tend to get their business from people passing by, or reading an ad somewhere and telephoning the centre, unlike a school that always has a given amount of students attending. Therefore, initially, you may feel a bit like you are doing a lot for nothing, but it does not take people long to build up a schedule and start earning money. Once you have a handful of students they always try to ensure that demos are arranged when you are going to be on site. They do not, as some people seem to believe, make you stay on site all day unpaid on the off chance someone will walk through the door. Generally, if a potential student simply walks through the door unannounced and wants a demo, someone like me, as a full time teacher, will give the demo as I am there for set periods of time and paid for it.

They do not offer accommodation, they are not a school or a recruiter. To be honest, many of the schools/recruiters who do offer free or extremely cheap accommodation will have you living in a complete disgusting hovel anyway, often way out of the city limits to keep the cost down. Many teachers end up seeking out their own accommodation in the end because they cannot stand the living conditions they have with the school.

Some people have complained that Hampson are false advertising by stating you will earn 20,000RMB a month, technically they are incorrect and should learn to read a little better. Hampson clearly state in the ad's that you CAN earn up to 20,000RMB, list the salary range from 6,000 to 20,000RMB, and also state that it is dependant on how many classes you teach.

You earn per class, classes are either 50mins or 100mins. Hampson are open 7 days a week as well as most of the holidays. They are open from 10am (sometimes 9:30am) until 9:30pm. If you do the math, you can see how some teachers, willing to put in the hours can earn that kind of money a month. I work with at least 3 people who are happy to work that long and they most certainly get paid well for it, the choice is up to you, I personally wouldn't want to work that amount of hours but thats just me, everyone is different and everyone has different reasons for being in China.

I would certainly recommend Hampson to anyone, you should at least check them out to see if it will suit you. It really depends on the individual at the end of the day, some people are much more suited to a school, some to a training centre. Go see them, ask questions, get answers. It's also worth mentioning that a training centre is very useful for supplementing your income if you work at a school that has long summer and winter holiday periods as most of them do not pay you during the holidays.

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Teachers only leave Hampson because of the way you treat them. did I make myself very clear here !!

No, not true and not very clear. All the teachers in Hampson schoolll very, very happy, you only slander name of our great schoolllll! We are their god friends and invite them for meal in dog meat restaurant regularly. In China, you only invite very good friends for a meal in dog meat restaurant to eat such delicious food! This is proof that what you say is not true!

I have one of your contracts. rest assured, I also have something else too.

You know paper is patient. Some of our bosses are illiterate, they cannot read and write, and so they do not know what is in the contract. It's only paper, what matters is practical treatment, and we provide very good treatment - actually the best foreign teachers in China have ever had.

your contracts are one of the biggest jokes, of the 21st century. they don't even have a stamp. worthless crap.

Wrong, this paper is not worthless crap. Even if what is written on it is not worth a dime, you still may use it to clean a certain part of the body that you would always clean after going to a certain place commonly known as the place where all people are equal because they are all doing the same thing over there.

In brief, Hampson is great schoolllll, and many students and foreign teachers indeed love it!

May our great Hamspon schoollll live forever!

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American teacher, please spare us all the crap.
let me make myself very clear, I love China, but it's such a pity that there dwells in this wonderful land, people like you, who have no idea or understanding of doing CORRECT and HONEST BUSINESS. also the Chinese are very sensitive to criticism to say the least.
I can only agree with the threads from the real teachers and westerners here.
the longer you continue to lie cheat and use people. the more damage you create for your stupid training schools, this is also not a good image for China !!!! because more and more people around the world will shy away from doing business with the Chinese. there are certainly many people who read the many various threads on the internet.
having said that. we all know that there are good and bad people wherever you go in the world, so I am not implying that all Chinese are bad people, just the minority who cannot see any further than your noses.
it makes me laugh, and also frustrating at times, when someone who is very genuine and honest, tries to help arse holes like you, they end up having students taken from them and given to other teachers, you lie to teachers, use them.
the list is endless. and your not even real men and women enough to answer people honestly. real men and women are not afraid of the truth, you behave worse than sewer rats, all you can do is HIDE!
Teachers only leave Hampson because of the way you treat them. did I make myself very clear here !!
I have one of your contracts. rest assured, I also have something else too.
your contracts are one of the biggest jokes, of the 21st century. they don't even have a stamp. worthless crap.
your one hampson School does not even have one computer for students or teachers.
I doubt you will ever have the intelligence to do proper, honest business with other people.
it is a known fact, that in the past, you have had some good western teachers, but they have long gone, the only ones you have now, are those who have no genuine qualifications.
if your schools are so good, then lets start seeing some real genuine threads here from some real English teachers.who work for hampson English. not some of your piss artists who never made it at University.
so who at Hampson is going to write the next load of rubbish.
Maggie,Kenny, no! he left some time ago. Michelle maybe.
yes, fix the problem, don't blame others for your own greed and lies.
you simply do not understand good business ethics!!

To realize that you do not understand is a virtue; Not to realize that you do not understand is a defect.
Lao Tzu

Re: Anyone heard of Hampson English

We fully agree and have changed the name of our schoolllll to "Hamsters English!"!...LOL

Re: Anyone heard of Hampson English

Oh please, seriously! Vancouver, Alaska? Perhaps you mean Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada? Or maybe you meant Vancouver, Washington, U.S.A?

You obviously gave yourself away with this idiotic sence of geography. Furthermore, your grammar reaks of Chinglish. In addition, 5000 rmb for 24 actual teaching hours is horrible.

Even if you were a "Real American Teacher", which we all know you are not, this sort of compensation is low standard. Especially for Beijing.

In all honesty, you would have probably lost less "face" for your school if you would have simply kept your "American" mouth shut.

Regards,

MW

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"Because some of teachers just suddenly leave without explain and tell anything???!"

you're not from america. no one says "leave without EXPLAIN and TELL ANYTHING". you must MUST be chinese. i'm a real life american and hampson's visas, unless you work in beijing are fake, they switch students to other teachers and will dwindle your classes down to nothing if you ever EVER protest about their lack of efficiency or laziness in doing their job. when you first begin slaving for them, they'll butter you into "letting" students cancel classes within the 24hr period that it SAYS ON THE CONTRACT. oh yeah, the contract is as fake as the school. it's an agency. they have no books, no pencils or pens, no classroom materials, and let me tell you my friends . . . NO LOYALTY. i had over 40hrs one week and then about 12 the following week. you want quick cash, then give them a maximum of about 3 months. anything more than that and you'll consider putting a gun to your own head.

and for hampson . . . if you try lying to foreigners again with your fake "i'm an amerian teacher" facade, i'll post my full story and i'm not afraid to simply bc it's not right what you do and you don't deserve to have "school" in your name. i would accept getting sued if it kept you from hoxing any more foreigners.

Yours Truely,
A Real US Teacher

Re: Anyone heard of Hampson English

Hello Hampson.

I am still waiting for a reply from you, but please do not hurry.
I understand your operations more than you would like known.

here we have yet another internet link.

http://www.asiajobs77.com/Native_English_teachers_wanted_in_hangzhou-369268.html

the quest to expose corrupt people is resentless.

I know your GUILTY. you know your guilty, that is why you do not wish to give truthful answers.
you are only interested in taking money from Chinese students, this is done by promising them that they will learn good English.
I know this is not true, due to a number of reasons, lack of correct books, computers, other materials, also qualified English teachers.
your methods are to lie to student candidates in the hope that they are stupid enough to sign your silly contracts.
your teacher contracts are just as pathetic, in fact, I have got one of them. they are not worth the paper they are written on.
certainly not good enough to wipe your backside with. no proper stamp. full of all sorts of crap.
Teachers can end up paying more back to you than they earn . you do not have an answer for this, do you.

there is a saying, I quote. YOU CAN FOOL SOME OF THE PEOPLE, ALL OF THE TIME. BUT YOU CANNOT FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE, ALL OF THE TIME.

I am not finished !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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This is the latest news .
Exposing crappy Schools. E.C.S.

Has yet, there is still no comment from Hampson English,
many teachers, students, and parents are angry that Hampson English have been allowed to continue trading in an Unprofessional way.
we phoned head office in Beijing and were told, due to the high and rapid turn over of staff there,not to mention teachers at Hampson schools, they were unable to comment at this time.
our research staff have reported that some of the schools are not properly organised,and do not come anywhere near the correct standards of good English Education teaching.
when we first put this question to Hampson, they said due to the high demand for English teachers, they were offering much higher saleries in the hope of attracting more teaching staff, therefore they felt it justified to make cut backs on teaching materials and make false statements regarding teachers saleries.
we also put forward another question to Hampson English school on the phone, did they have any feed back from the teachers and students.
Hampson declined to talk about teacher comments, but did say, they were very pleased with all the one sided letters and attention written here about them. they felt it has helped them greatly with good free advertisment on a much wider field.and very pleased they did not have to pay.
they were rather concerned though, that they had not recieved any positive feed back from any of it's former English Students ?
I wonder why.

keep looking Hampson.
you have used, and abused many good people,
you,I, and many others know this.
you can hide like the cowards you are, but all good Chinese and teachers alike will know of you.
indeed you shall become very famous.

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gaogao122333@163.com

this is your email address, and your English is crap.
one can only wonder how low you would stoop to protect your corrupt masters.
perhaps a few hours with your boss should help you keep your job.
I would not waste my time pissing over such people.

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please don't take me to court, I am a poor man, and I have a wife, six children and two dogs to look after, I simply could not afford a court case.

So am I - I have my crocodiles to look after, and that is very costly. I therefore ask that you at crappy Hampson continue to cheat, to tell lies, and to deceive because then all this what others and I say here is the truth and no libel that you could take us to court for. I am shuddering out of fear that you will take us to court.....afraid,,,,,afraid....afraid.....shudder....shudder....

But I must continue to say:

besides, I personally don't know any corrupt people who would take a bribe under the table to help me if you did decide to take me to court.

Re: Anyone heard of Hampson English

Hi Hampson.
please allow me to help.
I offer you one free lesson in English.

we think we know who you are, and yes, we understand why you created this post here.
because we at Hampson are all greedy lying,cheating Fu@kers
we are training our employees,that is our office staff, new ways of luring more unsuspecting teachers to work at our crap training schools.
needless to say, we are pissed off with all the nice letters from the forum members, this has been giving very positive results about Hampson English.
please forgive Hampson English for being one sided and not speaking the truth,naturally we shall endevour to continue lying to everyone.
our actions have already been leaked to many people here in China and all over the world.
we know Hampson English will continue to recieve more and more serious letters of complaints, this of course is going to piss us off even more.
if you have any questions, we shall be pleased to lie and give you the wrong advice.
we have found this the best methods to make fast money.

你好 ：
我想我们知道你是谁，我们也知道你为什么在这里发这个帖子。如果我们员工在工作中的处理问题的方法欠妥，我们在日后会改进和加强。如果你有什么问题我们很乐意给你解答。但是你现在片面地报道我们公司的一些制度，造成了非常不好的负面影响，请你停止你的这种行为。你的行为已经是在泄露我们公司内部秘密，我们现在对你提出严重的警告。如果你还在此继续你的行为我们将追究你的法律责任！
Hello :
I think we know who you are, we know why you made this post here. If our employees at work dealing with the problem properly, we will improve and strengthen in the future. If you have any questions we are happy to give you answers. But you are one-sided coverage of some of our systems, resulting in a very bad negative effects, please stop your act. Your actions are already in our internal leaked secrets, we now propose to you a serious warning. If you are still continue to do that, we will pursue your legal responsibilities!

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Smiler I would not bother waiting around to hear what the school in Chongqing has to say. The office stay in the new branch get shipped out of Beijing. At least that is what happened with the branch in Chengdu. With the same office staff or staff trained in Beijing you can expect to get the same treatment.

This place is probably one of the worst of the crappy chain schools!

Also their adds on the internet are a bit of a joke. Making 10-12,000 is possible, but you are going to be workng like a dog. to make 10,000 you will have to average 25 hours a week. And keep in mind that these are private 1 on 1 classes so you can expect abotu 25% cancelation rate and much higher around the holidays.

Don't waste your time, their are other places you can find in Chongqing.

some simple questions for hampsom. yes, stay tuned

Well it looks like it's time to have my say.

I have a few simple questions to ask Hampson School in Chongqing.

1 how many teachers do you have working there now.

2 when did your school open. the year and the month.

3 do you treat your students fair.

4 what teachers have worked for you, in your Chongqing branch, sinse you opened it.

5 please be honest,

these are straight forward questions , I shall wait for your answers

this is bad.

if there were no hampson people involved in this thread. i would think 'Mmm, hold on a min. are these all true?' or 'wow, really？'
but since i read the posts by hampson. i think i will believe the teachers. 'cuz hampson's attitude towards this is bad.

if you want to have a good business with westerners, you have to be honest, direct not doing stuff in this threatening way.
Do u actually think after this threatening people will think you are the angel and all the teachers are a bunch of liars?

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你好 ：
我想我们知道你是谁，我们也知道你为什么在这里发这个帖子。如果我们员工在工作中的处理问题的方法欠妥，我们在日后会改进和加强。如果你有什么问题我们很乐意给你解答。但是你现在片面地报道我们公司的一些制度，造成了非常不好的负面影响，请你停止你的这种行为。你的行为已经是在泄露我们公司内部秘密，我们现在对你提出严重的警告。如果你还在此继续你的行为我们将追究你的法律责任！
Hello :
I think we know who you are, we know why you made this post here. If our employees at work dealing with the problem properly, we will improve and strengthen in the future. If you have any questions we are happy to give you answers. But you are one-sided coverage of some of our systems, resulting in a very bad negative effects, please stop your act. Your actions are already in our internal leaked secrets, we now propose to you a serious warning. If you are still continue to do that, we will pursue your legal responsibilities!

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i was gonna just read and chill out... but i have to say something : YOUR ENGLISH IS f**KING SHITE!!

Oh, is this a slander? No, B'coz your english is as you wrote here. hehe.

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"Thank you for the concern and interested in hampson. If you want to truly understand hampson training school, please login our web site www.yangjiajiao.com. There are very detailed information and introduction. We will improve ourself if you have good suggestions. But for malicious slander our reputation please stop you slander, otherwise we will sue you and go through legal appeal."

"If you want to truly understand hampson training school"

I think, we've got a pretty good view of Hampson Training School by now, thanks to everyone who has shared their experiences (btw, I'm almost positive that it's not a 'school', not legally).

"We will improve ourself if you have good suggestions"

There's a plethora of good suggestions in this thread, start with these & see how things go before asking for more.

"But for malicious slander our reputation please stop you slander"

Please check the meaning of 'slander'.

Firstly, it's spoken (or gestures) and this has not occurred on this thread (written).

Second, it regards a falsehood (lie) that has been presented as the truth.

Due to the similar topics/complaints/suggestions that have been written in this thread about Hampson's different 'schools' by different people (whether they have worked there or know someone who has), these common issues have given strength to them being the truth and not lies.

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感谢大家对Hampson English Training School 的关注和关心，真正想了解Hampson培训学校的朋友们欢迎请登录我们的网站(www.yangjiajiao.com)那里有非常详细的信息和介绍。
对于大家提出的意见和建议我们会积极努力的改进，但是对于恶意诽谤我们公司名誉的人请停止你的诽谤，否则我们将通过法律申诉并追究你的法律责任
Thank you for the concern and interested in hampson. If you want to truly understand hampson training school, please login our web site www.yangjiajiao.com. There are very detailed information and introduction. We will improve ourself if you have good suggestions. But for malicious slander our reputation please stop you slander, otherwise we will sue you and go through legal appeal.

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I started working at Hampson English in Chengdu in March and they seemed very nice when I went in for an interview but the supervisor pressured me into signing a contract then & there even though I still hadnt given the due notice at my old job. I started doing demo classes, which are not fun. You are told that you have a demo class, so you turn up & the set time & wait for the potential student to come (which can be up to an hour late, which happened to me one day) and then after the course consultant has shown them around the school to show off their certificates, facilities, environment & supply of foreign teachers, you sit down & try to win the student. This is done by various methods depending on the students age & level. The student will probably have a demo with another teacher as well, so that they can pick who they liked best. I was asked to do demo classes for students who were not within my area of expertise (I teach children) or who wanted class at a time I couldnt teach due to my schedule, so it was often a waste of time.

If a student decides they like you, you have a class scheduled without being consulted. If you cant do this time, then problems occur. The course consultant/supervisor/manager might ask you to do the first class at this time & then it can be changed the week after. I did this once & then when I asked when the class would be changed to, I was told that it wasnt good to change the time after the classes had began (despite what they had previously told me) & that it should stay at the same time.

I have taught one of my students for about 2 months now and she still doesnt have the textbook. I ask twice weekly for the textbook to be given to her but they dont have any spare or try to find a record of what books the student has or they forget or its given to someone else. This student has paid a lot of money and she doesnt even have a textbook yet.

I have been asked to do a demo class when I have a current student scheduled to teach. Ive refused to do the demo as I dont want to be late for the class or keep the student waiting. It seems the school doesnt have the same concerns or professionalism regarding their paid up students as I do.

Twice, Ive been in my normal classroom on a Sunday, which is quite busy and have been either getting ready to start a class in a few minutes or in class and the manager or supervisor has got into an argument with a teacher in the classroom. This disrupted my class and was carried out in front of other teachers, students and parents and I was asked to move to a different classroom to teach rather than the people involved in the argument move to the slightly more private office to carry on the discussion and keep it away from everyone else in the school.

The manager/supervisor/course consultants sometimes stand outside the classrooms to listen to what the teachers are chatting to each other about & then report the details back to management.

I have taught children for 4 years now and find that the best way to teach them is with flashcards, teaching aids, stickers, balloons etc, anything to make the class as interesting & as varied as possible for them and to help the play and have fun whilst learning English. There is no textbook for very young students (I teach 2 & 3 year olds) and only a few small animal flashcards, which will only get you so far. I have had to supply my own teaching tools to teach to the standard I expect as the school wont buy a few simple supplies. You have access to printer paper (sometimes used), coloured pens, 1 Ikea standing whiteboard (good for younger children), building blocks, alphabet soft floor tiles, 5 stool, a few laptop sized whiteboards & youll be lucky to find any whiteboard pens that actually work thats all. This is not enough for a 1 on 1 weekly 50 minute class with a 2 or 3 year old. I have bought different sized balls, hammers, hands, dice, stickers, balloons, flashcards, my own worksheets and other materials, which have been standard in other schools I have taught in and should be supplied at a school that charges their students so much money.

I was shocked by the treatment of the female foreign teacher who was attacked by the manager in public (in the main reception with course consultants, teachers, students & parents standing by). That such an incident occurred in the first place is almost beyond belief, but it did and what happened afterwards is almost as bad. The girl was fired and the manager was on a flight to Hainan for his holiday a few days later. No one at the school talked to the teachers about it or reassured us or told us that the manager had been dually punished. The teachers who backed up the teacher were then treated badly by having their reputation slandered by the manager/supervisor/course consultant to parents so that students changed teachers.

There is a lot more to say about this school but Im sure someone else will be able to add their own experiences to this. I have handed in my notice and will be happy to finish working for an average salary in such an unprofessional, disorganised, incompetent and untrustworthy school.

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NICE
to see people speaking out, your comments are very true indeed, just a pity
more people did not read the true facts. the US teacher is almost certainly a
CT or someone of low intelligence trying to defend the actions of Hampson school.
hampson only give good schools a bad name.
when these rouge schools start learning to treat people with respect, and not continue to use teachers like slaves, then
perhaps teachers will stay longer,but this is impossible to expect from those who only want to make fast money
regardless whom they walk over.
some of these schools have no real idea of organizing correct English teaching.
how would you feel to have a CT telling you what books you must use for the student,
who is evaluating the English level of the student, you or them.
who is supposed to be actually doing the teaching ?.It's a joke..you will
also find a number of other schools like Hampson who will treat you nice at
first, until some other unsuspecting new teacher comes along and you will be pushed to one side,
you will have served your purpose, hence the big turn over of teachers.
students pay Hampson between 250 to 260 for a 50minute class, that is
for one on one teaching, many who have taught there know this.
a student could find a private English teacher for much less than that, thus saving a lot of money and almost certainly getting better value for money.
most Chinese seem to go by looks, if a school looks nice and flashy wall to wall glass,
carpets and other mod cons, then they are often easily taken it by all the
rubbish they are told. would you judge a book just by It's cover, then buy
it. some people don't have a lot of Choice and have to put up with the hell
of places like Hampson. I called it a place because frankly speaking, it
should not be called a school.such a pity that many students waste so much
money on such places where the only interest is making money by lies.
Hampson will use every trick in the book to get a student to sign a contract and hand over the money.
they will promise you this and that, but they never keep a promise.
they don't pay you for demo's
take a look at the schools and see how well equipped they are.
when you read all the posts about all these bad schools, then ask yourself, can all these people be lying.
the simple answer is NO !!.
I know of a number of teachers who got ripped off by these schools.
still not sure about a school, then ask friends or other western teachers.
if your still in doubt, then type a school name into your browser, look and much will be revealed.
Keep well clear of places like Hampson, and make no mistake, you will get used, lied to and cheated
China has got it's own history to thank for many of it's present day problems and situations.
there is a real lack of modern understanding of trust,respect and morals, for an otherwise lovely people.

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Anyone who has been in China for a while knows that Hampson is rubbish. As for them making EF look good, don't know about that, EF is also crap, always has been, always will be!

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About the deposit they withhold from their teacher,they give back the deposit 1500rmb before the teacher leaves the school with his last pay check, if the teacher didn't have any conflict with students. Because some of teachers just suddenly leave without explain and tell anything.

Withholding part of a teacher's salary is an illegal act. Apart from that, the decision as to whether a teacher has had (some?) conflict with students or not, and if said conflict merits withholding 'the deposit, (sic)' is subjective. It can be used as a vehicle of deceit to cheat a teacher pay-wise!
US teacher, or more likely, Chinese teaching assistant, judging by the English of your post, give it a rest. Most of us know all about TC's. We cannot be easily fooled by their lies and their trickery when it comes to teachers' pay.
Thankfully, only a few grovelling weasels without university degrees who worship money excessively will work themselves to death and allow themselves to be used and abused for the sake of the higher salaries on offer at TC's like Hampton!

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here's an interesting page to look at.

http://jobs.echinacities.com/ShowJob-45361.html

I have also seen the crazy contracts and very high fees students must pay to learn at the schools.

Hampson seems to well known.

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Yes, I worked for them for over one month in Shanghai. The salary was low: 220 RMB/100 min. They only kept my first 220RMB as a deposit in case I let them down in some way, which did not worry me too much. Yes their contract really sucks, but in reality, the worst they can do is to keep your deposit (220 per student). Just make sure you take students with many hours a week (less deposit) and that you quit after collecting your salary not before, so they can not withhold it. I would try to negotiate with them a shorter contract i.e. 3 months instead of 6. You can also try to negotiate a higher rate, their margin is huge from what I heard. And yes, it is true that they will not help you with your teaching in any way (but some text books are provided).

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Good advice and observations, Kevin.

Here's a bit more information and comments:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=74104&highlight=hampson

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I guess I was a little unclear.

The school is hiring "full time" and part time teachers. The full time contract was a bit of a laugh. I don't remember what the hours were, but it only paid about 6-7000 a month. So I asked them about the part time positions. They said part time was 200rmb for 100 minutes. (They are getting smarter on the sales part). I "good" teachers they paid 220.

The "gig" is one to one privates. That is all they do. What ever the customer desires, so if it is IELTS you need to prepare that, if it is SAT, you need to prepare that, it is ?, you need to prepare that, etc. I usually try to avoid one on ones, because they tend to cancel a lot and you don't get paid. Then it got more entertaining. She told me about the attendance policy.

If you call in sick or pull a no show, you get docked 100. However if the student cancels less than 24 hours in advance, the student still has to pay for the class. I can't remember if you actually get paid for the class or not (I would probably bet that you get paid a portion of it with the rest going to the school)

I asked her about the curriculum and if she had ever used it, what was the quality, etc? She said some it was bad and you were going to have a lot of prep time.

Just wait, it gets even better. Then she tells me that they with hold 1500 from your first pay check and have the right to deduct another 500 and keep the entire if you 2000 if you decide to quite with out enough notice. She justified this, as well as the above penalties for missing classes, due to "unprofessional" teachers. When she asked me if this was a problem I said yes. No way i will agree to it. She offered to speak with management and see if she could make an exception.

I asked her what she expected. She wasn't hiring professional teachers at the rate and if she was going to hire back packers she was going to have those problems.

Of course she sympathized and said she understood, but these matters were all up to the management in Bejing and she had no control over the matters.

The bit about with holding salary sounds really bad and I just wanted to point this out to every one on the bored. If a school tries to hold onto a part of your salary, it is because THEY HAVE PROBLEMS KEEPING PEOPLE! If you ever encounter this situation pass on it.

That being said I would really be interested if any one has knowledge of this company.

An old ad is at, http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/China/index.pl?page=4;read=121923 or just search the site for the school name, it will come up.

As to what has been said about training schools, couldn't agree more. Maybe a subject for a different post.

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Hello,

Has anyone every heard of had dealings with Hampson English School. They are chain with several branches in Beijing, Tianjin, Guangzhou, and a new one in opening Chengdu.

I had an interview with them today in CD. They are moving into flashy building down town, but the pay seems really low, only 110 per 50 minute class. When I said that was really low, she told me that was the going rate in Beijing which i don't believe.

Also they brought something up about with holding 1500RMB from your salary and they could deduct another 500. Seems they have had a problem with runners.

For the record I said no deal on the with holding. She said she would speak with her boss about it.

Just curious if any one has ever worked for them before and also what their pay rate.

Thanks

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