Problem is Turnoi, you're speaking with amoral types who will only use moral obligations such as "don't date your students" as a tool to show how "moral" they themselves are when they are in fact not. Looking into what some of these posters especially a couple of the older ones wrote they have no problems working and enabling the corrupt behavior which happens at training centers and not giving a shit about the well being of other teachers and will just tell the less fortunate ones to tough it out because there are no alternatives. Such is the hypocrisy of ESL "teachers" you meet in places such as China. The lame reasons given by the upper management GW types such as londongirl and the Kevins such as not speaking against a place you've never worked at only goes to show you the unabashed shameless nature of these corporations. Upper management at places such as English First have a LOT to lose with bad publicity. They are the ones collecting the most royalty from the local, smaller businesses that use their company moniker to attract business from Chinese parents. The dishonesty of people who work at these places still amaze me. Didn't one poster recently just come out about having no problems working at one after posting on here for a couple of months???