I know.... and he does not want to change or see or perceive or whatever (I have been trying for many many months)... My taffy is like a broken record. A racist broken record. Happy to be so. Will go to oblivion repeating his favorite sentence about some 16 or 17th century event (as if the Brits did not invade other countries....). At times, I feel hopeless when it comes to Taffy.

You took the words out of my mouth and used them the other way around, hahaha. What I have been trying to get across is "Don't talk to me about the way the British treated Africans because we learned all the rough handling from them who started selling us as slaves over a century before we turned the tables. In fact the tale-end of the Barbary Coast Slave Trade was still in business when 'our' slave trade had started. American Merchant Marines were captured by the Africans and used as slaves." So, these Africans were at that time interested in extending and reinvigorating their operations.