boots43
- 2004-07-02
> Sorry, if I've misunderstood you. Lets discuss to share knowledge
> not to attack one another personally.
> Anne, Kwanku and Boots, lets stop offending each other and move
> forward.
> My apologies to anyone that I might have offended.
> God bless us all.
Anyone who has been at the website for any length of time knows that has been the thrust of many of my post. God bless you,too, solomon
boots43
- 2004-07-02
> Kwako, pardon me. For what are you apologizing to this guy?
I imagine he's apologizing for what everyone apologizes for - offending someone else. :)
Charles, teaching in Korea
- 2004-07-02
Kwako, pardon me. For what are you apologizing to this guy?
> Hello DoS,
> I apologize. Sorry.....
> KWAKU
> Ghana
Solomon Konneh
- 2004-07-01
Sorry, if I've misunderstood you. Lets discuss to share knowledge not to attack one another personally.
Anne, Kwanku and Boots, lets stop offending each other and move forward.
My apologies to anyone that I might have offended.
God bless us all.
boots43
- 2004-07-01
> Doctor writes: Anne, this post is very disappointing - you won't
> solve any problems
> by sinking to this level.
> What's disappointing about Anne's post? She only wrote to clarify her
> postings and that's fine. It's like you want Anne to write some bad
> stuff so we can start personal attacks.
> Anne, you've clarified things and I don't problems with u. If this
> doctor feels otherwise and want to start arguments, let it be.
Anne responded to my post by telling me it was helpful to her. I was referring to her use of obscenities in some of her posts. Either you didn't read those posts or thought obscenities were ok. In either case, I (and Anne) would disagree with you.
boots43
- 2004-07-01
> She criticized her teacher and also said the school has decided not
> to hire anymore-African teachers. Which is like if her school has
> another bad teacher, let say an Australian, will they stop hiring
> Australians then? . Will it be right if they decide to do so?
> Lighten up in my post meant to wake up and not to generalize about
> all Africans because of that so-called bad teacher and that we live
> in a multi-racial and cultural world so there's no need for hatred.
> Anne wrote to clarify that she was only referring to her teacher and
> some Ghanaian guy in her postings and that's settled. If you want to
> make it an issue, start doctor.
Well, she is certainly not responsible for the decisions her school makes, is she? I don't understand the start doctor comment. Certainly you should be aware of the racial connotation of 'lighten up' and should use a term that is more neutral , such as don't take everything so seriously.
No issue with you, solomon. Just meant to be helpful and fair - sorry if it came across any other way.
KWAKU
- 2004-07-01
> Kwaku, your beginning to annoy me. You have brought this on yourself
> and caused a perfectly reasonable post from Anne sink to your level.
> Anne, ignore him, he will get tired and go away if we are lucky.
> I am not responding to Kwaku any more, as it is rather like talking
> to a circle. Pointless.
> Mind you, I could actually understand his latest post. Perhaps your
> good English is beginning to rub off!
Hello DoS,
I apologize. Sorry.....
KWAKU
Ghana
Solomon Konneh
- 2004-06-30
Doctor writes: Anne, this post is very disappointing - you won't solve any problems
by sinking to this level.
What's disappointing about Anne's post? She only wrote to clarify her postings and that's fine. It's like you want Anne to write some bad stuff so we can start personal attacks.
Anne, you've clarified things and I don't problems with u. If this doctor feels otherwise and want to start arguments, let it be.
Mike B
- 2004-06-30
Where I work we've had teachers from the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Uganda, Jamaica, Scotland (that I can remember) and I have to say that there were good ones and bad ones, but that had nothing to do with where they were from.
Schools that hire teachers from overseas run a big risk and some big expenses (as do teachers looking for jobs from overseas) and if someone hires a bad teacherI think it is natural to try and put the blame elsewhere.
It's not fair, but I think we just have to put up with it, if Anna's teacher was a lazy bum, is the person responsible able to say "I hired a lazy bum." I don't know the Chinese system, but from what I understand this person would then be putting their own job at risk, so instead they say "No more Africans."
It's not fair, but then it is self-preservation.
Good African teachers will open the doors for more of their countrymen, I'm sure of that.
Good luck to you all
Mike.
Solomon Konneh
- 2004-06-30
She criticized her teacher and also said the school has decided not to hire anymore-African teachers. Which is like if her school has another bad teacher, let say an Australian, will they stop hiring Australians then? . Will it be right if they decide to do so?
Lighten up in my post meant to wake up and not to generalize about all Africans because of that so-called bad teacher and that we live in a multi-racial and cultural world so there's no need for hatred.
Anne wrote to clarify that she was only referring to her teacher and some Ghanaian guy in her postings and that's settled. If you want to make it an issue, start doctor.
boots43
- 2004-06-30
> To me, Mr. Kwaku, he is either D_MB or just plain F_CK_ _G ST_PID.
> --------
> Anne. you're in the grip of a continuing and progressive illness.
> Learning to live without resentment at seeing the success of another
> is complicated by the fact that it is so hard for you to accept your
> disease.
> KWAKU
> Ghana
Are you a doctor now, Kwaku? Neither you nor Anne is adding anything to the debate here by lowering it to the attack level.
DoS
- 2004-06-30
Kwaku, your beginning to annoy me. You have brought this on yourself and caused a perfectly reasonable post from Anne sink to your level.
Anne, ignore him, he will get tired and go away if we are lucky.
I am not responding to Kwaku any more, as it is rather like talking to a circle. Pointless.
Mind you, I could actually understand his latest post. Perhaps your good English is beginning to rub off!
> To me, Mr. Kwaku, he is either D_MB or just plain F_CK_ _G ST_PID.
> --------
> Anne. you're in the grip of a continuing and progressive illness.
> Learning to live without resentment at seeing the success of another
> is complicated by the fact that it is so hard for you to accept your
> disease.
> KWAKU
> Ghana
boots43
- 2004-06-30
> Mr. Solomon,
> Do accept my apologies if I have in anyway offended anyone. I know
> that I may have been critical at times but my critics is solely aimed
> at our so-called, Mr. "conclusive" Kwaku. Personally, I
> have nothing against Africans or Black teachers.
> Did I or did I not give credits where it is due? I did credit my
> former Canadian (Indian) and British teachers (who were migrants from
> Nigeria) for having taught us well. I did even mention that there are
> many good African teachers here in China. It is just that when I
> criticized my former Cameroonian teacher, the M_RONIC MR. KWAKU (who
> I believe, can't read between lines), start jumping to conclusion and
> think that I am against Africans.
> To me, Mr. Kwaku, he is either D_MB or just plain F_CK_ _G ST_PID.
> Please don't tell me to stop harassing him, I aim to and will cross
> sword with him when the opportunity arise.
> One thing for sure, I'll be embarking on a teaching career in a
> senior middle school and I will not hesitate to tell my new employer
> to engage African teachers, if they come our way. Like I've said
> before, teachers are teachers, skin color is of no significance to
> me.
> Good luck, Mr. Solomon. Have fun teaching in China.
> Ohhh, forgive my vulgarity..
Anne, this post is very disappointing - you won't solve any problems by sinking to this level.
boots43
- 2004-06-30
> Anne, stop generalizing. There are a few open-minded school directors
> that hire experienced and qualified African teachers and this will
> continue with or without you or your school. Since your school has
> decided not to hire anymore-African teachers and you think this is
> the end for all Africans in China, then you just dont know.
> Qualified teachers will keep getting jobs regardless of racist
> schools.
> By the way, I like your courage coming to such discussion forum; I
> think youll learn a lot. You sound alittle negative about the black
> race, lighten up Anne; its a multi-racial world.
> I have been teaching English at some Chinese universities for two
> years and Ive just signed for another year to remain in China. The
> strong will always survive against all odds and only the racists will
> vanish.
> Im an African having fun living and teaching in China.
> Cheers
Anne criticized ONE bad teacher who happened to be black. And I really think you should examine the phrase "lighten up" for its connotations. :)
boots43
- 2004-06-30
> Anne. you're yet to realize that your "bad luck" is cause
> by situations you had placed yourself in. Dont know china, but I
> heard is ok there.
> bye now.
> KWAKU
> Ghana
Anne certainly has never cried about having bad luck - she just said she had one bad foreign teacher and several good ones. Kwaku, I think you are looking for trouble. But please stick to what people actually say.
boots43
- 2004-06-30
> In that case, we Chinese should starting discriminating all
> Caucasians and engage Japanese to teach English and French, German
> ,Spanish and other languages. The Japanese did not only invade,
> colonized and trampled us, they practically................... (Need
> I go further into details about what happened in the past)?
> My apologies, no offence to the present days Japanese people, I don't
> mean any harm raking up the past. My response is solely directed at
> Mr. Joe Lee.
> Stop being childish, Mr. Joe Lee, your attitude is disgusting. Here
> you are showing the whole world that we Chinese are quitters and have
> no fighting spirits. One setback isnt going to kill anyone. Pull
> yourself together; go out there into the real world and fight. If
> theres a will there is a way. Who knows, you may go into history as
> the man who ended discrimination in China.
> Good Luck and all the best to you and your Cameroonian teachers.
Great post, Anne
KWAKU
- 2004-06-30
> Wow! look who's talking now... Go get a life M_RON
> To me, Mr. Kwaku, he is either D_MB or just plain F_CK_ _G ST_PID.
calling people like this give you a feeling of superiority. you assume everyone else is crazy, and that you're the only sane one. I noticed that when you talk to others you indulged in self-pity. you hate yourself for wasting your talents and for the trobles you're causing to others. consider the connection between your very low self esteem and your misery. you're going through a lot of pain. you peace of mind is non- existent. sad but I see many years of pain and misery for you. Africans deserve respect too.
KWAKU
Ghana
Anne Wang
- 2004-06-30
Wow! look who's talking now... Go get a life M_RON
> To me, Mr. Kwaku, he is either D_MB or just plain F_CK_ _G ST_PID.
> --------
> Anne. you're in the grip of a continuing and progressive illness.
> Learning to live without resentment at seeing the success of another
> is complicated by the fact that it is so hard for you to accept your
> disease.
> KWAKU
> Ghana
KWAKU
- 2004-06-30
To me, Mr. Kwaku, he is either D_MB or just plain F_CK_ _G ST_PID.
--------
Anne. you're in the grip of a continuing and progressive illness. Learning to live without resentment at seeing the success of another is complicated by the fact that it is so hard for you to accept your disease.
KWAKU
Ghana
Anne Wang
- 2004-06-30
Mr. Solomon,
Do accept my apologies if I have in anyway offended anyone. I know that I may have been critical at times but my critics is solely aimed at our so-called, Mr. "conclusive" Kwaku. Personally, I have nothing against Africans or Black teachers.
Did I or did I not give credits where it is due? I did credit my former Canadian (Indian) and British teachers (who were migrants from Nigeria) for having taught us well. I did even mention that there are many good African teachers here in China. It is just that when I criticized my former Cameroonian teacher, the M_RONIC MR. KWAKU (who I believe, can't read between lines), start jumping to conclusion and think that I am against Africans.
To me, Mr. Kwaku, he is either D_MB or just plain F_CK_ _G ST_PID.
Please don't tell me to stop harassing him, I aim to and will cross sword with him when the opportunity arise.
One thing for sure, I'll be embarking on a teaching career in a senior middle school and I will not hesitate to tell my new employer to engage African teachers, if they come our way. Like I've said before, teachers are teachers, skin color is of no significance to me.
Good luck, Mr. Solomon. Have fun teaching in China.
Ohhh, forgive my vulgarity..
> Anne, stop generalizing. There are a few open-minded school directors
> that hire experienced and qualified African teachers and this will
> continue with or without you or your school. Since your school has
> decided not to hire anymore-African teachers and you think this is
> the end for all Africans in China, then you just dont know.
> Qualified teachers will keep getting jobs regardless of racist
> schools.
> By the way, I like your courage coming to such discussion forum; I
> think youll learn a lot. You sound alittle negative about the black
> race, lighten up Anne; its a multi-racial world.
> I have been teaching English at some Chinese universities for two
> years and Ive just signed for another year to remain in China. The
> strong will always survive against all odds and only the racists will
> vanish.
> Im an African having fun living and teaching in China.
> Cheers
KWAKU
- 2004-06-30
Anne. you're yet to realize that your "bad luck" is cause by situations you had placed yourself in. Dont know china, but I heard is ok there.
bye now.
KWAKU
Ghana
Solomon Konneh
- 2004-06-29
Anne, stop generalizing. There are a few open-minded school directors that hire experienced and qualified African teachers and this will continue with or without you or your school. Since your school has decided not to hire anymore-African teachers and you think this is the end for all Africans in China, then you just dont know. Qualified teachers will keep getting jobs regardless of racist schools.
By the way, I like your courage coming to such discussion forum; I think youll learn a lot. You sound alittle negative about the black race, lighten up Anne; its a multi-racial world.
I have been teaching English at some Chinese universities for two years and Ive just signed for another year to remain in China. The strong will always survive against all odds and only the racists will vanish.
Im an African having fun living and teaching in China.
Cheers
Anne Wang
- 2004-06-29
> Anne Wang.
> If you live in the free world, you're certainly entitled to your
> opinion. you can just say, "thank you" for net-forums for
> you to spew your venom at Africans.
> you're welcome.
> KWAKU
> Ghana
Mr. Kwaku,
What do you do for a living? Are you a teacher? (I doubt you are going to admit that you are one).
If you are, I suggest you pack you bags and head back to where you rightly belong, Ghana. English teachers in this forum can see that my English is incredibly horrific and I am not denying the fact, my English is mistakes ridden and horrendous but yours is as appalling as mine.
My fellow Chinese students can do without an appalling teacher like you. Moreover, your fellow African teachers are struggling to find jobs, and with your demonstration of English; their chances will be as good as dead. You will be the death of all African teachers. There are many good African teachers in China and Im sure they wouldnt want you going around disgracing them.
Go home before they start cursing you to no end.
Anne Wang
- 2004-06-29
> What are you getting at? Would you like to be more specific? To me,
> your English is totally incopmprehensible.
My apologies typing error
incopmrehensible= incomprehensible
Anne Wang
- 2004-06-29
> Anne Wang.
> If you live in the free world, you're certainly entitled to your
> opinion. you can just say, "thank you" for net-forums for
> you to spew your venom at Africans.
> you're welcome.
> KWAKU
> Ghana
What are you getting at? Would you like to be more specific? To me, your English is totally incopmprehensible.
KWAKU
- 2004-06-29
Anne Wang.
If you live in the free world, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. you can just say, "thank you" for net-forums for you to spew your venom at Africans.
you're welcome.
KWAKU
Ghana
Anne Wang
- 2004-06-29
> Why do Chinese discriminate Black teachers from Africa , Even black
> teachers from America? Oh my almighty god , I personnal think why
> Chinese prefer white to teach Englsih is that China used to be
> invaded, colonis ed, and trampled by people with the color called
> WHITE who spoke English.
> To imagine that If China had been ever invaded, conolised and
> ocuppied by black people speaking English, the case here today would
> be different.
> Do not utter swear-word at me even you are offended, we are just
> discussing the socially controversial issue.
In that case, we Chinese should starting discriminating all Caucasians and engage Japanese to teach English and French, German ,Spanish and other languages. The Japanese did not only invade, colonized and trampled us, they practically................... (Need I go further into details about what happened in the past)?
My apologies, no offence to the present days Japanese people, I don't mean any harm raking up the past. My response is solely directed at Mr. Joe Lee.
Stop being childish, Mr. Joe Lee, your attitude is disgusting. Here you are showing the whole world that we Chinese are quitters and have no fighting spirits. One setback isnt going to kill anyone. Pull yourself together; go out there into the real world and fight. If theres a will there is a way. Who knows, you may go into history as the man who ended discrimination in China.
Good Luck and all the best to you and your Cameroonian teachers.
boots43
- 2004-06-29
> Dear Friends,(Mes chers beaux amies)
> Thank you for your contributions to my topic 'Peter's teachers in
> China"
> Je suis tres content avec vous textes, et Je suis ensaigne par un
> Camerounais ami et prodesseur dans un lycee ou il et Je sommes
> trailles presque un demi annee. Et je me trouve leur anlais est tres
> formidable et leur francais est tres bon. Peut-etre que vous trouvent
> que mon francais n' est pas excellent comme il.
> I should say the world is a place of culturally,
> econimically.politacally and enthically diversified one.
> Discrimination is universal, even in China, there is discriminations
> imposed by governments and other ignorant Chinese. I say Africa is a
> land of not only misery, war and famine but also a land where
> qualified Englsih teachers and French teachers are available. I do
> not think my Englsih is standard compared with my Cameroonian
> friends. Why should i say my English is that ? because my Englsih is
> educated in Chinese environment only when i was 14 years old.
> Why do Chinese discriminate Black teachers from Africa , Even black
> teachers from America? Oh my almighty god , I personnal think why
> Chinese prefer white to teach Englsih is that China used to be
> invaded, colonis ed, and trampled by people with the color called
> WHITE who spoke English.
> To imagine that If China had been ever invaded, conolised and
> ocuppied by black people speaking English, the case here today would
> be different.
> Do not utter swear-word at me even you are offended, we are just
> discussing the socially controversial issue.
Chinese prefer white teachers because they were invaded and colonized by whites? That's like saying Jews prefer Hitler because he killed them! It doesn't make any sense!
Dear Friends,(Mes chers beaux amies)
Thank you for your contributions to my topic 'Peter's teachers in China"
Je suis tres content avec vous textes, et Je suis ensaigne par un Camerounais ami et prodesseur dans un lycee ou il et Je sommes trailles presque un demi annee. Et je me trouve leur anlais est tres formidable et leur francais est tres bon. Peut-etre que vous trouvent que mon francais n' est pas excellent comme il.
I should say the world is a place of culturally, econimically.politacally and enthically diversified one. Discrimination is universal, even in China, there is discriminations imposed by governments and other ignorant Chinese. I say Africa is a land of not only misery, war and famine but also a land where qualified Englsih teachers and French teachers are available. I do not think my Englsih is standard compared with my Cameroonian friends. Why should i say my English is that ? because my Englsih is educated in Chinese environment only when i was 14 years old.
Why do Chinese discriminate Black teachers from Africa , Even black teachers from America? Oh my almighty god , I personnal think why Chinese prefer white to teach Englsih is that China used to be invaded, colonis ed, and trampled by people with the color called WHITE who spoke English.
To imagine that If China had been ever invaded, conolised and ocuppied by black people speaking English, the case here today would be different.
Do not utter swear-word at me even you are offended, we are just discussing the socially controversial issue.