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#1 Parent Simple Guy - 2009-04-24
Re: To work for Africans in China is rewarding

Hi Peter,

I do agree on what you have said. If only all Chinese Employers has a great conviction or great mind as you have,the goal to improve if not standardized the education in China will be achieved. - I mean...Chinese Employers should hire foreign teachers without prejudice regardless of color, nationality etc... he/she has, so long as he/she has the ability and competence to deliver and nurture the development, inculcating good values, strengthening personal character - morally and intellectually in which that is what students in China needs today. Kudos Peter!

I just want to a make correction Peter, Its Filipino - not Philipino

#2 Parent Concerned non-native fella - 2009-04-24
Re: To work for Africans in China is rewarding

Dear Alex,

Cehck this out from your previous write-up; But I am always try to avoid typo errors by checking....

It should be I always try to .... Ask me why and i'll tell you.

Concerned non-native fella

#3 Parent Denis - 2009-04-23
Re: To work for Africans in China is rewarding

Dear Josee,
Although in this very competitive country- China, people do everything it takes to break through in business, I am very strongly against malpractices like bribery, dishonesty, etc.

1. It is wrong to think that an English teacher MUST be a native English speaker.
(Being a native speaker of a language doesn't qualify one enough to teach that language)

2. It is even worse to think that an English teacher must be a white man from some shortlisted countries. (Teaching a language has nothing to do with the colour of one's skin)

3. It is wrong to think that people whose first language is not English can't teach English.
(Some of the best ESL teachers, trainers and ESL course book writers are not native English speakers)

Unfortunately, this is the mentality, less educated, ignorant and sometimes purely prejudiced persons have and pass on to the younger generation. We are not simply English teachers. We are educators and models. It is our duty to correct this way of thinking instead of encouraging it by getting involved in bribery and lies about people's origins and identities. By doing so, educators that we are, help in promoting social evils like racism, discrimination and prejudice. We ought to prove the society wrong.

My story: (A little long, read if you have the patience).

When I arrived in China many years back I was shocked at the prejudiced ads online with phrases like 'whites only' 'No Africans please' 'you must be American, British, bla bla bla.' With 5years ESL teaching experience I felt for the first time like a fish out of water. I called my mom and told her I wanted to go back home because I felt like an unwanted person. My mom felt so bad that she talked to my dad about it. My dad on the contrary was not that worried. I remember his words so clearly: "Son, if you meet darkness, do not run away, light a candle." He said and hung up on me.

I was still in Guangzhou, my one month L visa was running out. The guy I was temporary putting up with was putting pressure on me to leave or pay rents. In this desparate situation I fell in to the trap. I got duped by a visa agent who promised both a job and an F visa. That's how I found myself in my first teaching position in China - a small village school in Xi'an.

At first things looked promising. I was sharing a two bedroom apartment with a fellow teacher Tony from the Philippines. The students loved me. Soon the enrollment doubled. Then came the bomb. The boss asked us to lie to the students as well as their parents. Tony was asked to say he was from New Zealand and I had to say I was from New York. In fact the boss had already lied to the students and the parents. He was just telling us to be sure his lie would work. As the enrollment rose students started asking us to tell them about our respective countries. Tony knew nothing about New Zealand neither did I about America let alone New York. I managed on for a few months and quit after six months without telling the students the truth for the sake of the school and my friend. Tony accepted it and stayed on. The boss was red when he received my resignation letter. He promised me hell in China. He said I was never going to get a job in China with the mentality I had. Tony also warned me because I told him I was heading to Beijing. As he saw me off at the bus station to Xi'an city he said I could get a job in the smaller cities but asked me to put Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen off my list.

While in Xi'an I called my parents again and told them about the situation. My mom was really ok with me going back home for my return flight ticket was still valid. But my dad pushed me on. In my mind I really wanted to go back home but I thought, it would be better to give it the worst shot before leaving. One of the reasons was also the curiousity of seeing Beijing. I boarded the train to Beijing. The city of Beijing fascinated me. The hustling and bustling, the nightlife and everything else. I spent everyday in the internet cafe next to the small place where I was staying responding to ads online. I got calls everyday from schools but who all hung up on me after the first question "Where are you from?" It grew more and more frustrating so in anger I rewrote my CV. (My first CV had the nationality line omitted deliberately as advised by friends in Guangzhou). This time I included the following lines after the introductory paragraph in bold: "I am not from America, Canada, Britain, Australia, New Zealand, I am from Cameroon - Africa. I am a trained ESL teacher, give me a chance in the classroom and watch what I can do." Four days passed, no calls from any school. I was sure that was it. I was ready to leave. In fact what kept me was the plan to visit the Tian na men square I had heard so much about. I really wanted to take some pictures for my brothers.

Then one morning I got a call from a Canadian, Chris Cotter. He was in charge of recruitments at the Aihua Foreign Language Academy. My CV had struck him. The demo lesson was nothing to me. In 40minutes I got the kids chanting English song. They hired me. At the end of the summer camp they asked me to sign full time. I turned down the offer because my resume with the bold lines was still circulating and calls were still coming in. I got a few calls but turned them down. They were all part time hours. Gary Young Allen, the native English teachers supervisor stumbled on my CV on some of the numerous websites I had registered in. He called me, interviewed me and that was it. I got the job at the Korean International School. I was the first black and African to be hired by the school.
I received boos from students the first day i was presented officially. So because of doubt still, they hired me as a part time teacher. After the first semester they got me to sign full time. The students quickly became fond of me. Today as I write this post 5 Africans teach in that school, 2 Zimbabweans, 1 Kenyan, 1Nigerian and a guy from Equatorial Guinea.

I left the Korean International School in quest of the next prejudiced city - Shanghai where I work now. I teach business English to graduates. I have started and online coaching program called My Everyday English - MyEE which is growing and expanding with a fascinating ESL learners and teachers community. My best friends in China are my students. The most prejudiced persons in China are the recruiters. They polute the society and especially the young generation with this way of thinking.

So dear Chinese friends, prejudice is a social evil. Think of all the chinese investments in Africa, all the Chinese living in African countries (7000 in my country - Cameroon), think of all the diplomatic ties that have been made with numerous conferences with friendship slogans and then think about the way we are regarded here; the cold stares, remarks, mockery laughs, etc.

In China foreigners who are white are referred to as 'wai gou ren' while foreigners who are black are refered to as 'hei ren.' It hurts to be reminded all the time of one's skin colour and that one is a foreigner here.
*Imagine if people started calling chinese people "Yellows" or "Yellow men."
*Imagine you in a foreign country sitting on a seat on the bus or on the train with the two other seats to your left and to your right deserted.
*Imagine you walking in the park just to relax, a little child sees you and says 'hello' happy to meet you and the mother grabs him and carries him away in her arms as if to say "how dare you go near that .... (I don't know what)".
*Imagine you walking on the street and every time you approach people someone is saying "Kan kan Kan yi xia" or elbowing the other to see what kind of person is coming. *Imagine students' parents saying "My daughter's teach is black but he can teach well."
*Imagine all the ads online carrying hurting phrases like: 'we don't do visas for African countries,' 'teachers from Africa - don't apply please' 'I want a boyfriend - no blacks'
I could go on and on naming them and may be you will just say like some friends have said to me before: "This is China, you can not change it, if you are not happy go back to your country." No no no no no and no. I am a teacher and I am an educator.

Educators, it is our challenge to mould the society. Dear black brothers and sisters. Do not run away from the darkness, light a candle.

Denis DNT.
Shanghai, April 2009.

#4 Parent Chunping Alex Wu - 2004-07-28
Re: To work for Africans in China is rewarding

Dear friends:

We are likely to criticize others, but very easily miss our own mistakes; especially in writing. I myself commit mistakes sometimes. But I am always try to avoid typo errors by checking carefully whatever I wrote before sending to my students. I don't want to give my students a bad example of being careless in handling a formal work.

When using a word processor in the computer, please check the spelling and grammar after editing, by choosing Spelling Checker and Grammar under Tools.
Alex Wu

#5 Parent PETER NJODZEKA - 2004-06-21
Re: To work for Africans in China is rewarding

Hi Lee,

This is Peter Njodzeka..... I just want to quote somebody's message that I got from this website.... It's true that many schools in China don't know yet that English is a world language and not only native speakers... Just read it and you'll see the difference of a native speaker or some of the whites and a blacks persons when it comes to teaching...

It quotes:

I have read through all the articles on The discussion Forum and I haven't seen any one without a mistake. These mistakes MIGHT not be delibrate.They are mostly typographical errors. Take your post for an instance "Take you post".
I believe , mistakes are part of humans .There is no one that is absolutely perfect, then we should believe the saying that "to err is human.........." If I understood the context of Moses' article well.I think he was trying to talk about the activites of the so called native speakes in the classroom. Like Goto, I have had several native speakers who had taught in my school. Many of them don't even know how to teach. Could you imagine a native speaker I got from The States,all he did was to sing "Head and shoulder kneels and toe to senior grade(3) students.

Eventually , the students found him to be such a bore and they complained about him and he was fired . The most important lesson we should learn from Moses' article is that , employers shouldn't look on the basis of skin color, or on native speaking countries.But on the basis of Competency , dedication , and love for the job. Currently , I have three foreign teachers , 2 from Africa and the Other a Philipino. They are doing a great job. My students are satisfy with them.

Dear Lan, do you know there are so many native speakers in China who are not qualified to teach english in China? Do you know Chinese employers just hired them on the basis of skin color? Of course, this is not to say native speakers are not good. But sometimes they are not the best you need. I hope you won't mind that I have pointed out your little mistake. I might have made such a mistake too. Then we should know mistakes have no masters.
Thanks dear readers.

#6 Parent DoS - 2004-06-13
Re: To work for Africans in China is rewarding

Hi Jose,

What do you mean when you say : "I am a self actualised chinese"? Does that mean you have a Chinese passport now?

Jose lee - 2004-06-12
To work for Africans in China is rewarding

Dear Sirs,

It is really long since my last discussion here about varied topics.
Today you might see my topic interesting and unique.

I am a self actualised chinese working in a high school teaching English to high school girls and boys. I am working as volunteer for Englsih Teachers' organisation, Cameroon sponsored by English Dept. of University of Younde 1. I mainly help the Organisation to station their teachers here in mainland China teaching English.

To land plum jobs for my Cameroonian friends is a bit harder because all school told me to send them white from USA,UK,Cananda,New Zealand and Australia only. Their ignorance really astonished me that they argue that Cameroon is not English speaking country and the people in Cameroon speak Cameroonian. Oh, my God, you really kill me.

To persuade schools in to taking Africans needs interpersonal skills and arts of negotiation and bribery. To promise the persons in charge of the recruiting programmes money is the way i work for Africans.
This kind of strategy is okay and passible? Wait for your comments.

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