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#1 Parent rob - 2004-09-28
Aw, gee!

> ==========================================

> I find I must TOTALLY agree with my friend E_S_L in Asia's evaluation
> of the ultra-succinct methodology by which you attempt to deal with
> the often detailed comments of others on this board, particularly
> those who have a serious bone to pick with you! Granted, you are but
> a dilettante in the field of English education, your supposed
> communication "skills" should have, by this relatively late
> stage of the game, achieved a slightly more advanced stage than the
> "ugh's" and "ah's" you've been ever-so-freely
> distributing on this board for months under the guise of
> "intelligent responses!" (witty retorts?)

> Perhaps we've all been focusing on the WRONG persons for
> burger-flipping activities. Ms. Xi, YOUR normal compendiousness and
> terse issuance of orders could certainly support some exciting
> front-of-the-store activity at ... say ... a very busy Los
> Angeles/Chinatown Jack-in-the-Box facility, to wit: "Your
> order." ... "Number 3, pick up!" ... (Customer thanks
> you) YOU reply, "Ugh-huh." (Customer asks if there is a
> rest room facility on the premises) YOU reply, "Ugh-huh."
> (Customer asks if the double cheeseburger costs under $2) YOU
> respond, "Ugh-huh." (The Boss asks you if you want your
> cheque) YOU respond, "Yeah." Hell, Ms. Xi, you're wasting
> your precious time on this board, not to mention in the ESL teaching
> racket! That funny clown NEEDS you ... hey, and at a fabulous $6.75
> an hour! That must be at least 4 times more than what you're
> currently earning, wherever the hell that might be! Tell me if I can
> assist you in effecting this exciting change of venue. You know,
> you've actually given me a terrific idea for a super-exciting story
> ... "Laconism for Lunch." Gee, thanks.

> Have a nice day.
> The Arrogant One

just kidding.

#2 Parent The Arrogant One - 2004-09-26
Don't display your ignorance of English to your teaching colleagues: SPEAK IN ONE-SYLLABLE GRUNTS!

> Whose side are you on anyway?

> XI

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Side...? WHOSE side am I on...??? I thought you knew. My side is

TRUTH, JUSTICE, and THE UNIVERSAL WAY!

(Profoundest apologies to the guy with the cape!)

UGH!

The Arrogant One

#3 Parent xi - 2004-09-25
Re: Learn Mandarin

> Granted I can't stop you thinking that I can't win; but are you
> really that confident or are you just saying that?

> anyway it's not whether you win or lose that counts...you know - that
> old chestnut...

I may be on the naive end of that, too.

XI

#4 Parent xi - 2004-09-25
Re: Don't display your ignorance of English to your teaching colleagues: SPEAK IN ONE-SYLLABLE GRUNT

> ==========================================

> I find I must TOTALLY agree with my friend E_S_L in Asia's evaluation
> of the ultra-succinct methodology by which you attempt to deal with
> the often detailed comments of others on this board, particularly
> those who have a serious bone to pick with you! Granted, you are but
> a dilettante in the field of English education, your supposed
> communication "skills" should have, by this relatively late
> stage of the game, achieved a slightly more advanced stage than the
> "ugh's" and "ah's" you've been ever-so-freely
> distributing on this board for months under the guise of
> "intelligent responses!" (witty retorts?)

> Perhaps we've all been focusing on the WRONG persons for
> burger-flipping activities. Ms. Xi, YOUR normal compendiousness and
> terse issuance of orders could certainly support some exciting
> front-of-the-store activity at ... say ... a very busy Los
> Angeles/Chinatown Jack-in-the-Box facility, to wit: "Your
> order." ... "Number 3, pick up!" ... (Customer thanks
> you) YOU reply, "Ugh-huh." (Customer asks if there is a
> rest room facility on the premises) YOU reply, "Ugh-huh."
> (Customer asks if the double cheeseburger costs under $2) YOU
> respond, "Ugh-huh." (The Boss asks you if you want your
> cheque) YOU respond, "Yeah." Hell, Ms. Xi, you're wasting
> your precious time on this board, not to mention in the ESL teaching
> racket! That funny clown NEEDS you ... hey, and at a fabulous $6.75
> an hour! That must be at least 4 times more than what you're
> currently earning, wherever the hell that might be! Tell me if I can
> assist you in effecting this exciting change of venue. You know,
> you've actually given me a terrific idea for a super-exciting story
> ... "Laconism for Lunch." Gee, thanks.

> Have a nice day.
> The Arrogant One

But... you know... with that slu... pros... next door.

Whose side are you on anyway?

XI

#5 Parent The Arrogant One - 2004-09-25
Don't display your ignorance of English to your teaching colleagues: SPEAK IN ONE-SYLLABLE GRUNTS!

> Ugh!

==========================================

I find I must TOTALLY agree with my friend E_S_L in Asia's evaluation of the ultra-succinct methodology by which you attempt to deal with the often detailed comments of others on this board, particularly those who have a serious bone to pick with you! Granted, you are but a dilettante in the field of English education, your supposed communication "skills" should have, by this relatively late stage of the game, achieved a slightly more advanced stage than the "ugh's" and "ah's" you've been ever-so-freely distributing on this board for months under the guise of "intelligent responses!" (witty retorts?)

Perhaps we've all been focusing on the WRONG persons for burger-flipping activities. Ms. Xi, YOUR normal compendiousness and terse issuance of orders could certainly support some exciting front-of-the-store activity at ... say ... a very busy Los Angeles/Chinatown Jack-in-the-Box facility, to wit: "Your order." ... "Number 3, pick up!" ... (Customer thanks you) YOU reply, "Ugh-huh." (Customer asks if there is a rest room facility on the premises) YOU reply, "Ugh-huh." (Customer asks if the double cheeseburger costs under $2) YOU respond, "Ugh-huh." (The Boss asks you if you want your cheque) YOU respond, "Yeah." Hell, Ms. Xi, you're wasting your precious time on this board, not to mention in the ESL teaching racket! That funny clown NEEDS you ... hey, and at a fabulous $6.75 an hour! That must be at least 4 times more than what you're currently earning, wherever the hell that might be! Tell me if I can assist you in effecting this exciting change of venue. You know, you've actually given me a terrific idea for a super-exciting story ... "Laconism for Lunch." Gee, thanks.

Have a nice day.
The Arrogant One

#6 Parent ESL_IN_ASIA - 2004-09-24
Re: Learn Mandarin

HEY, WERE ENGLISH TEACHERS FOR PETES SAKE!! Please, please you are supposed to be the paragon of linguistic beauty and pride. We are likelike..well..like a piano teacher.

We are an integral part of the upper class educational system and we MUST act accordingly. How do you think its going to look when the new batch of 5000 ESL teachers, laid-off from US Airlines, will like it if they know this is what to expect in their new found career? They might actually want to pursue a Wal-Mart greeters job. Please, banter all you like, but keep a modicum of better penmanship than: ahhhhh oh baby.yeh.duh.

#7 Parent Dolly Drummond - 2004-09-24
Re: Learn Mandarin

Granted I can't stop you thinking that I can't win; but are you really that confident or are you just saying that?

anyway it's not whether you win or lose that counts...you know - that old chestnut...

#8 Parent xi - 2004-09-24
Re: Learn Mandarin

> =================================================

> HORSESH--- (ahem, sorry)... HORSEFEATHERS!

Ugh!

#9 Parent The Arrogant One - 2004-09-24
Re: Learn Mandarin

> You can growl, mock me, but you can't win.

> XI

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HORSESH--- (ahem, sorry)... HORSEFEATHERS!

#10 Parent xi - 2004-09-24
Re: Learn Mandarin

> I don't know why you'd think i'd think you were anyone in particular,
> but I'll try my best to answer your questions.

> Q 1: I feel ok thanks for asking.

> Q 2: plumber? cardiothoracic surgeon? card sharp? the Dallas Cowboys?
> milked the cow with the crumpled horn? ...that's a tough one!!!

> anyway, sorry if i have caused any confusion.

You can growl, mock me, but you can't win.

XI

#11 Parent Dolly Drummond - 2004-09-24
Re: Learn Mandarin

> I don't know who you think I am. Are you alright? What did I do?
> keep it short and to the point.

> XI

I don't know why you'd think i'd think you were anyone in particular, but I'll try my best to answer your questions.

Q 1: I feel ok thanks for asking.

Q 2: plumber? cardiothoracic surgeon? card sharp? the Dallas Cowboys? milked the cow with the crumpled horn? ...that's a tough one!!!

anyway, sorry if i have caused any confusion.

#12 Parent xi - 2004-09-24
Re: Learn Mandarin

> No, most of the people who have ever called me rude wouldn't be able
> to pronounce rambunctious. I'll take it as a compliment.

> (How many pairs of hands does Xi have exactly I wonder?)

I don't know who you think I am. Are you alright? What did I do?
keep it short and to the point.

XI

#13 Parent Dolly Drummond - 2004-09-23
Re: Learn Mandarin

No, most of the people who have ever called me rude wouldn't be able to pronounce rambunctious. I'll take it as a compliment.

(How many pairs of hands does Xi have exactly I wonder?)

#14 Parent ESL_IN_ASIA - 2004-09-23
Re: Learn Mandarin

> =========================

> Ahhhhhhh ... my favorite board antagonist ... that once-Canadian,
> once-American super critic whose incontestable (detestable?) opinions
> demand the notice of not only those within spitting distance, but ALL
> other humanoids on the Planet Earth ... hell, why not the entire
> @u#i*@ Galaxy, for that matter?! Actually, mein Geliebte, I actually
> found your recent post HIGHLY amusing, especially the
> stool/belly/farting/toupee shtick! BRAVO! I needed the laugh! But, at
> the risk of inflicting irreparable injury upon your ego, I find I
> must inform you that, with regard to "l'il ol' MOI," you've
> gotten a wrong number ... and I DO accept your apology.

> In reality, I fear I've grown to hate ESL worse than you, but as I
> may have indicated earlier, it's probably my bloody age that demands
> my continued participation in the highly unprofitable perversion that
> it has become over recent years. I miss the music biz more than I
> realize, and, should there be any bitterness visible in my
> disposition, it is, no doubt, attributable to that very fact. But,
> when we speak of "arrogance," in my case, it's NOT that I
> favor flaunting my superlative teaching techniques. Nay! Nay! 'Tis
> really the JOY of possessing a super-rebellious posture regarding the
> consuetude of contemporary society. Also, having been an ESL
> instructor (and sometimes administrator) in Asia, Europe, and South
> America didn't exactly bolster my already depleted enthusiasm for
> ESL. And, in all candor, that "burger-flipping" jazz is not
> so very far from reality. I hear that Fat Burger is starting
> newcomers @ $8.50/hr. + benefits! When you really get down to it,
> that beats the f@c* out of those (notorious) ESL operations here in
> LA that have been known to start rookie instructors @ as low as
> $12/hr with NO BENEFITS! So, from now on, KEEP A STRAIGHT PUSS when
> you mention flipping burgers!

> Sorry you're married, man. S**t! I thought I could score some
> additional points on Sports Update's card by playing that to the
> limit! And now I'll have to contine the ever-so-tiring search for
> perfect mates for those two losers! Thanks a lot, Kemosabe ... I'll
> remember you in my will!

> Tch!

Well thanks The Arrogant One for being honest. Yes, lets kiss and makeupah ..yuck!! I humbly apologize and I completely agree with you on the ESL and life part.

Oh, and I apologize to the audience for this lame comeback but wait for history lesson to come at me. Ill actually enjoy giving Leroy a go. Anyway, I can see that we just got off on the wrong foot. < Insert rainbow here with music and hanging basket >

Hey you should get another keyboard because you have some funny characters in that essay of yours. Really, good luck and all. Peace

#15 Parent The Arrogant One - 2004-09-23
Re: Learn Mandarin

> Of course, if Ive guessed wrong, please accept my deepest humble
> apologies, as Im sure you are a grand teacher with probably many
> citations and loads of privates clamoring for your services.

> Tch

=========================

Ahhhhhhh ... my favorite board antagonist ... that once-Canadian, once-American super critic whose incontestable (detestable?) opinions demand the notice of not only those within spitting distance, but ALL other humanoids on the Planet Earth ... hell, why not the entire @u#i*@ Galaxy, for that matter?! Actually, mein Geliebte, I actually found your recent post HIGHLY amusing, especially the stool/belly/farting/toupee shtick! BRAVO! I needed the laugh! But, at the risk of inflicting irreparable injury upon your ego, I find I must inform you that, with regard to "l'il ol' MOI," you've gotten a wrong number ... and I DO accept your apology.

In reality, I fear I've grown to hate ESL worse than you, but as I may have indicated earlier, it's probably my bloody age that demands my continued participation in the highly unprofitable perversion that it has become over recent years. I miss the music biz more than I realize, and, should there be any bitterness visible in my disposition, it is, no doubt, attributable to that very fact. But, when we speak of "arrogance," in my case, it's NOT that I favor flaunting my superlative teaching techniques. Nay! Nay! 'Tis really the JOY of possessing a super-rebellious posture regarding the consuetude of contemporary society. Also, having been an ESL instructor (and sometimes administrator) in Asia, Europe, and South America didn't exactly bolster my already depleted enthusiasm for ESL. And, in all candor, that "burger-flipping" jazz is not so very far from reality. I hear that Fat Burger is starting newcomers @ $8.50/hr. + benefits! When you really get down to it, that beats the f@c* out of those (notorious) ESL operations here in LA that have been known to start rookie instructors @ as low as $12/hr with NO BENEFITS! So, from now on, KEEP A STRAIGHT PUSS when you mention flipping burgers!

Sorry you're married, man. S**t! I thought I could score some additional points on Sports Update's card by playing that to the limit! And now I'll have to contine the ever-so-tiring search for perfect mates for those two losers! Thanks a lot, Kemosabe ... I'll remember you in my will!

Tch!

#16 Parent Sports Update - 2004-09-22
Re: Learn Mandarin

Second Round
Category: Entertainment

ESL_IN_ASIA: -2
The Arrogant One: 6

#17 Parent ESL_IN_ASIA - 2004-09-22
Re: Learn Mandarin

> ========================================

> "Arschloch?" ... hypocrite? At times, perhaps, according to
> my FIRST wife! But a GRAND discovery, in the interim: YOU and SHE ...
> the perfect couple: YOU -- a bitter, unrealistic, all-condemning
> "Schwanzkopf"; SHE -- a robotic, inane, unintellectual
> "yes-girl." I can arrange this union for whichever date is
> convenient.

> .... or ... let me see ...

> YES! I've got a better deal for you -- one more befitting BOTH
> personalities: Ms. XI! A marvel of a woman ... so resolute ... so
> commanding ... so RIGHT about everything ... so ... so ... (expletive
> deleted)!

> Javoll, mein Lieber! Sehr Gut! Am I am a matchmaker ... or am I a
> matchmaker???

> Auf Wiedersehen.

Ah, yes. The Arrogant One is back. You know, in order to be arrogant, it implies that you have something to flaunt, for example intelligence. What a banal display of self grandeur and lack of originality.

But alas, from your writing skills, I can only imagine that you are just another white-face parrot ESL teacher.

Like so many expat ESL teachers that, unlike my situation, really WERE serving burgers when the money was flowing in the US.

I can just see you now, sitting on a stool in front of the class, as the stool squeaks and groans under stress from your overhanging belly jiggling with every stunning quip. Yes, the class riveted by curiosity to your strange white face as they try to ignore the intermittent passing of gas. There you sit rattling off but suffering from too much rot gut beer the night before with your other loser expat friends.

I'm sure that you're the kind that lasciviously earmarks poor Chinese damsels in class for a little "who's ya daddy" but not realizing that your toupee is coming unglued.

Now before you predictably fire back that Im describing me or some banal thing like that, Im happily married (thanks for the offer of the Ex though), fit from walking to all my class locations and have all my hair, even after all this banter with unusual expats as you.

Of course, if Ive guessed wrong, please accept my deepest humble apologies, as Im sure you are a grand teacher with probably many citations and loads of privates clamoring for your services.

Tch

#18 Parent The Arrogant One - 2004-09-22
Re: Learn Mandarin

> Now, now Mr. Arrogant One. You admonished me for making comparisons
> to Hitler and even expected me to apologize for it!! Seems to me
> youre a bit hypocritical Just as I thought.

> Der Heuchler Der Heuchler.. Der Heuchler

> Arschloch!!!!!

========================================

"Arschloch?" ... hypocrite? At times, perhaps, according to my FIRST wife! But a GRAND discovery, in the interim: YOU and SHE ... the perfect couple: YOU -- a bitter, unrealistic, all-condemning "Schwanzkopf"; SHE -- a robotic, inane, unintellectual "yes-girl." I can arrange this union for whichever date is convenient.

.... or ... let me see ...

YES! I've got a better deal for you -- one more befitting BOTH personalities: Ms. XI! A marvel of a woman ... so resolute ... so commanding ... so RIGHT about everything ... so ... so ... (expletive deleted)!

Javoll, mein Lieber! Sehr Gut! Am I am a matchmaker ... or am I a matchmaker???

Auf Wiedersehen.

#19 Parent xi - 2004-09-22
Re: Learn Mandarin

> CHECKMATE!!!

> and for your next trick? really, i can't wait.

Whoa! Hold on now, lady! You're pretty rude and rambunctious, anyone ever tell you that?

XI

#20 Parent ESL_IN_ASIA - 2004-09-22
Re: Learn Mandarin

> =============================================

> ACH SO! Yet ANOTHER decree from CHANCELLOR XI! Xi, you are so very
> amicable ... the perfect archetype of a conundrum already proven to
> be inhospitable and malevolent to those newcomers with multifarious
> weltanschauungen. On second thought, perhaps your "edict"
> best be obeyed, if only for the preservation of one's pedagogical
> goals ... not to mention SANITY.

> Zieg Heil!

Now, now Mr. Arrogant One. You admonished me for making comparisons to Hitler and even expected me to apologize for it!! Seems to me youre a bit hypocritical Just as I thought.

Der Heuchler Der Heuchler.. Der Heuchler

Arschloch!!!!!

#21 Parent The Arrogant One - 2004-09-22
Re: Learn Mandarin

> don't like the rules - don't come here!

> XI

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ACH SO! Yet ANOTHER decree from CHANCELLOR XI! Xi, you are so very amicable ... the perfect archetype of a conundrum already proven to be inhospitable and malevolent to those newcomers with multifarious weltanschauungen. On second thought, perhaps your "edict" best be obeyed, if only for the preservation of one's pedagogical goals ... not to mention SANITY.

Zieg Heil!

#22 Parent Dolly Drummond - 2004-09-21
Re: Learn Mandarin

> don't like the rules - don't come here!

> XI

CHECKMATE!!!

and for your next trick? really, i can't wait.

#23 Parent Dolly Drummond - 2004-09-21
Re: Learn Mandarin

> Hello: "Ni Hao"
> Thank: you: "Xie Xie"

> Chinese are WEALTHIER now. They got so much $$$ to spend everywhere.
> Thanks to companies that outsource the jobs there.
> Wealthy Chinese now can travel nicely and well respected.

> Does any of this sound familiar?

...let's see...nothing to say and not sure how to say it...hmmm...sounds familiarly like Xi...

...well anyway chook, keep trying...we're all sure you'll get there one day; or perhaps this represents the zenith of your achievement?...if so - CONGRATULATIONS!!!

...oh...and....er sorry.... but what was that again by the way?

#24 Parent Dos - 2004-09-21
Re: Learn Mandarin

Your point is?

Wo bu ming bai.

> Hello: "Ni Hao"
> Thank: you: "Xie Xie"

> Chinese are WEALTHIER now. They got so much $$$ to spend everywhere.
> Thanks to companies that outsource the jobs there.
> Wealthy Chinese now can travel nicely and well respected.

> Does any of this sound familiar?

#25 Parent xi - 2004-09-21
Re: Learn Mandarin

> But, they get what they pay for.

> no ma sayin'

don't like the rules - don't come here!

XI

#26 Parent another qingdao - 2004-09-21
Re: Learn Mandarin

> Hello: "Ni Hao"
> Thank: you: "Xie Xie"

> Chinese are WEALTHIER now. They got so much $$$ to spend everywhere.
> Thanks to companies that outsource the jobs there.
> Wealthy Chinese now can travel nicely and well respected.

> Does any of this sound familiar?

But, they get what they pay for.

no ma sayin'

Reality bites - 2004-09-21
Learn Mandarin

Hello: "Ni Hao"
Thank: you: "Xie Xie"

Chinese are WEALTHIER now. They got so much $$$ to spend everywhere.
Thanks to companies that outsource the jobs there.
Wealthy Chinese now can travel nicely and well respected.

Does any of this sound familiar?

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