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#1 Parent Abby - 2004-10-13
Fair treatment of teachers will overcome racism

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> :).........:(..............:8..............;)..........:0............:)

> "A job you love can become a souce of depression and this may
> lead to thoughts of job change."
> [Hope says...it is a costly business to change careers these days or
> to go back to College to EARN another degree. Trained school
> teachers-I'm speaking to you-think twice before going to a
> non-regulated and non-unionised country. You could develop flashbacks
> or Post Stress issues when returning to work in your home country,
> quenching your compassion, and desire to teach. It might even lead to
> accepting low-paid administration work and living at home with your
> parents as options.]

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There are so many complaints about "RACISM" in todays Western Society.
People who aren't from the west feel discriminated against.
They want equal rights in the countries that they live and work in.
What I am proposing is that if ESL teachers and other overseas workers were treated with any dignity at all within SOME offending schools and workplaces, then the mistreated workers wouldn't come home and perpetuate racism in their western countries. Put simply, treat others as you want to be treated. If bosses bully and cheat workers, then their culture will continue to be discriminated against in the West.

Dialog:

"How did you enjoy your job, Bart?" said mom.
"I got ripped off by my boss and my friend was left at the airport", said Bart.
"Would you like some apple pie?"said mom.
"Yes please," said Bart.
"Thanks mom, I feel so much better now." said Bart
"You're welcome."said mom.
TELEPHONE RINGS....ring, ring, ring, ring.
"Hi, it's your uncle Fred from New York, how is Bart?
"Oh, some terrible things happened while in Asia, do have a few hours?"
"I'll come over, after I finish writing the editorial for the New York Times.
"Sure, see you then"
"Bye".

#2 Parent Hope - 2004-10-13
Why improve conditions?

> "Bullying at work is the repeated, mistreatment of a target by a
> harassing bully, that is driven by the bully's desire to control the
> target. It can include humiliation, interference, and witholding
> resouces and support preventing the target from suceeding at
> work."

> "Co-workers side with the bully'[The bully holds the cheque
> book]

> "Bullies control every aspect of the reign of power-When to move
> in on their target, when to hold pack, the place, the audience".

> "Bullies use surprise and secrecy to gain control over their
> targets"
> [Most at risk-new esl teachers with no Korean language skills, when
> there is a problem, suddenly all Koreans can speak no English even
> though its a core school subject-funny that!]

> "Targets are a diverse normal talented people" [not people
> outside the mainstream or social rejects as described by some
> employers.]

> The quotes here are taken out of the book named The Bully at Work, by
> Gary and Ruth Nambie, both with P.H.D's, ISBN 1-57071-534-3,
> published 2002.

> Liberty says be strong all you esl teachers and have a nice day. I'm
> in my home country now about to start work in an un-related field.
> I'm sending this to you guys because I know that there isn't much
> information available to you, except over the internet. More to
> follow.
> Love from Liberty.

:).........:(..............:8..............;)..........:0............:)

"A job you love can become a souce of depression and this may lead to thoughts of job change."
[Hope says...it is a costly business to change careers these days or to go back to College to EARN another degree. Trained school teachers-I'm speaking to you-think twice before going to a non-regulated and non-unionised country. You could develop flashbacks or Post Stress issues when returning to work in your home country, quenching your compassion, and desire to teach. It might even lead to accepting low-paid administration work and living at home with your parents as options.]

#3 Parent Liberty - 2004-10-13
Workplace bullying for hogwan advancement

> "The Bully at work.... withholds resouces and support preventing
> the target from suceeding at work."

> BUT WHY? If a boss can fire you at 11 months for doing a sub standard
> job, he will do it to save paying a 12 month bonus and airfare. The
> boss appears to have made a just decision in the eyes of the
> Immigration department.

> Bullies step on you for their own advancement...does this sound
> familiar in your situation? I know of incidences where books,
> stationery, non-poisonous heating, air-conditioning, a positive
> emotional atmosphere,and satisfactory accommodation were lacking and
> where bullying, grey areas in contracts designed as
> rip-offs,defamation and sexual abuse were present.

> Liberty says peace to all peoples of the world and to the arrogant
> one, and that there will be more updates.

"Bullying at work is the repeated, mistreatment of a target by a harassing bully, that is driven by the bully's desire to control the target. It can include humiliation, interference, and witholding resouces and support preventing the target from suceeding at work."

"Co-workers side with the bully'[The bully holds the cheque book]

"Bullies control every aspect of the reign of power-When to move in on their target, when to hold pack, the place, the audience".

"Bullies use surprise and secrecy to gain control over their targets"
[Most at risk-new esl teachers with no Korean language skills, when there is a problem, suddenly all Koreans can speak no English even though its a core school subject-funny that!]

"Targets are a diverse normal talented people" [not people outside the mainstream or social rejects as described by some employers.]

The quotes here are taken out of the book named The Bully at Work, by Gary and Ruth Nambie, both with P.H.D's, ISBN 1-57071-534-3, published 2002.

Liberty says be strong all you esl teachers and have a nice day. I'm in my home country now about to start work in an un-related field. I'm sending this to you guys because I know that there isn't much information available to you, except over the internet. More to follow.
Love from Liberty.

Victory - 2004-10-13
The Low down.........let's get some action!

"The Bully at work.... withholds resouces and support preventing the target from suceeding at work."

BUT WHY? If a boss can fire you at 11 months for doing a sub standard job, he will do it to save paying a 12 month bonus and airfare. The boss appears to have made a just decision in the eyes of the Immigration department.

Bullies step on you for their own advancement...does this sound familiar in your situation? I know of incidences where books, stationery, non-poisonous heating, air-conditioning, a positive emotional atmosphere,and satisfactory accommodation were lacking and where bullying, grey areas in contracts designed as rip-offs,defamation and sexual abuse were present.

Liberty says peace to all peoples of the world and to the arrogant one, and that there will be more updates.

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