Thx, I can also appreciate your point of view. The word here is that NN was unable to provide what SB and his very hedonistic friends required. A mate of his suggested Pattaya instead of a boring married life in Nanning, and then there was the apartment demand which is obviously unacceptable to most foreigners. I will not comment much more, what SB does is his business, and I wont go into specifics about locations like that other bloke did . NN ex pat scene is very cliquey, I did not hang with his crew, not my scene, but I know Silverboy and his mates easily out spent every other foreigner here. They were crazy about getting authentic Western cuisine, especially sirloin steak, also they have a fetish for sex with pretty late 20's and early thirty something Thai and Chinese women. Anyway, I wish SB well, maybe he can finally find what he wants in Pattaya.