Yes, and it is the BLOODY STUPID CHINESE visa policy which has made it this way.A lot of FT's do not want to, for financial/personal/time reasons, to have to return to their home country to get police check and take care of the visa process there.By making it a CASINO game of CHANCE in Hong Kong, and refusing the possibility of getting a visa in Thailand or South Korea, they have made it harder for the long term ZHONG GUO TONG's and shot themselves in the JIAO bigtime!!!

Make things back the way they were, no criminal record check needed, invite letter to get visa in HK, and quelle surprise, the demand will be met!It is perfectly simple logic, but lost on the current CENTRAL government in PEKING which wants to make it harder for WAI GUO REN especially those with a chinese LAO PO to live and TEACH in China.

Thats my take, I will call a spade a spade.

I couldn't agree more. Wonder what Martin Hainan thinks about what you have said, and what I had said in the previous post of this thread to yours? The cat seems to have got his tongue!

He is not a good man, IMO! I suspect he is a paper tiger, as well as a wumao. He has elected not give us any advice how to get deceitful recruiters and agents barred from employing foreigners to teach. Instead, it appears by default, that he blames us foreigners for accepting illegal employment. But it takes 2 to tango, and the initial entanglement emanates from the Chinese side. That's the way to go - stop them from offering illegally in the first place by introducing crippling fines and withdrawing their right to hire foreign teachers as a matter of course, end of story re breaking visa regulations. A no-brainer! Has the cat still got your tongue, my man?