However, there seems to be no-one inclined to start arguing the toss

Now that's another matter- where the dickens have they all gone to? Occasionally the odd one revisits but they say nothing about where they are all posting at the moment!! I think they are all grouped together on some seedy board somewhere grumbling about Trump. I do get this curious notion, they are not interested in Haddock or Kippers. Maybe Fifi will tell us- we should ask her? Where are you all posting, Fifi?