Thanks for the laugh 'Lili," and thanks for creating a thread that exposes the need for many of these posters to pounce upon any and all opportunities to justify their incompetence in the classroom as being the fault of the students and not themselves. In addition, thanks for the temporary reprise from the inanity of their anti Frank postings - postings which have become more and more based on opinion and vindictiveness and less and less on reality.

Wake up and smell the coffee dudes. If you think "Lili's" post was actually written by a Chinese student and not an FT whose ability to pull your collective legs is priceless, then you're even less observant and cognizant of reality than I had previously imagined. Yep, she/he GOTCHA!

But do sit up and take notice folks. There is a growing impatience that reflects the frustration of the student community at large in China at having to accept less than qualified Westerners as their instructors. But don't take it too personally; that frustration is not reserved only for the teachers. So, you can take some solace in the fact that they are also recognizing that the school leaders are complicit in this fiasco by blindly hiring any white face that happens by and placing their dumb asses in a classroom where hope and excitement quickly fade due to their having to accept so many dumb asses as their instructors.

Yes indeed, just like the fat ass American generals, you better start developing an exit strategy because sooner than you might think you will be expected to "get on outta Dodge." Gee, here's an idea: Go get some training and then try again elsewhere. Of course, though, some of us will miss you....Not!

Finally, if you do really think yourselves qualified to continue teaching in China, perhaps your time would be better spent if you complained less and researched more. There are many success stories in China in terms of second language acquisition. Try acquainting yourselves with some of them. Or, better yet, start by realizing that language is acquired not learned and see if that realization might guide you down a path where you suddenly realize that your failed attempts at "teaching" may have something to do with you and not the majority of your students. Yes, there will always be a minority in your classroom that shouldn't be there and/or don't want to be there in the first place, but that's not the real issue.