Neither yourself nor I or any other person that has posted on this board is qualified to speak directly to the subject. You are entitled, at THEY say, to your opinion. But your conclusions are founded on incorrect, biased, prejudiced and yes, even racist information that you are too ignorant to recognize.

Yes but let's be honest, the Chinese are more racist, due to the isolationism.

Isolationism can be, and often is a condition that gives rise to racism. However, by no means is isolationism the sole contributing factor to racism. Further, one must have a working definition of racism - one that is agreeable to the participants in a forum discussion - before a discussion can be held. Otherwise, everyone is all over the map with their own quirky little experiences in China that they consider 'racist,' when racism was not a factor. Additionally, bias, prejudice, discrimination are components of racism but do not by themselves constitute racism.

Allow me this opportunity to open your eyes to the 'world of racism' by inserting a Wikipedia list of types of acknowledged or alleged racism.

* Anti-Semitism and New anti-Semitism.* Apartheid * Black supremacy* Caste system
* Colorism* Cultural genocide* Ethnic cleansing* Eurocentrism* Genocide* Institutionalized Racism* Interracial fetish* Model Minority* Nazism* Racial purity* Racial segregation* Redlining* Reverse discrimination or reverse racism* Scientific racism* State racism* Systemic racism* White flight* White man's burden* White privilege* White supremacy
* Yellow peril

To this we can add

Historical racism

* based on lineage and common decent; it identifies a population with a common origin in history, but not a population with a fixed biological character; used to define nation states in Europe; expressed through national symbols, such as Nazi eagle, Aryan cross; believed in superiority of some nations over others

New Racism

* no longer any biological notion to indicate cultural or other inferiorities; not necessarily an assumption of inferiority or superiority; new expressions, such as immigrants, integration, cultural values, hide the racist sub-text in our culture.

Want to muddy the waters even more.....

Mark Halstead, Education, Justice, and Cultural Diversity: An Examination of the Honeyford Affair, 1984-85 (London: Falmer Press, 1988)

Pre-reflective Gut Racism

Post-reflective Gut Racism

Cultural Racism

Institutional Racism

Paternalistic Racism

Color-Blind Racism

Now we can talk about racism.

These people still stare at foreigners like they are two headed zombies from another planet, you don't get that anywhere else.

You're wrong. I've spent many years in the Middle East, North Africa and other countries and I have indeed, been stared at in the same manner that you have described. Here, you are merely inserting your own feelings and attributing this, perhaps, uncomfortable and unwelcome attention from the Chinese and attaching the 'label' of racism to it without any foundation whatsoever that racism is involved.

Why there are so many China apologists on this board I'll never know.

I put it to you that having a fruitful discussion on Chinese Racism on this board is impossible. Take note - you've already begun name calling and labeling without any information about myself. Also, this statement is, by itself, proof that you do no want nor are you capable of an intelligent conservation on the subject. Best let well enough alone.

No, America is not even close to being as racist as China. No other countries do not match the kind of racism you have here, and saying they do will not make it so.

You are defending American racism because you feel that Chinese racism is worse.....it this what I am to take from this sentence. That's a tough sell, buddy.

When China is an open society with foreigners being a common, welcome site, where no one stares at you like you were an Alien, then we can discuss things again. When the Chinese stop believing they are superior to other races, though there is no such thing as races, then we can talk again.

This little jewel tells me that no good will come from any discussion about Chinese racism with yourself.

And, finally, this from you;

I would have to say wolf totem that you views seem based as much on arrogance as anything else, and I must say China is the only country of many which I've been to where I am treated so poorly based upon my skin color. Spout all the nonsense you want, your words are merely opinion, I know from personal experience you are wrong, and I am right.

Who is the arrogant one here......

IF you truly want to have a discussion on racism in China, define racism for me. Then, define Chinese Racism. Perhaps, one can then begin to talk about ideas, experiences and emotions that might be considered as racist. Until this obstacle has been removed, any posts are pointless - useless to anyone who might want to learn something about racism in China.

When next you Dither, PidderPadder, get beyond a knee jerk reaction before you pull the trigger on your posts. You could have saved everyone some time by not posting generalities.

Have a nice day.