IM, with regards to the Z visa in HK, it's hard to believe how you put it "perfectly simple". It seems the FTs in Guangdong, that I have refered to, don't count to you.

Well, that's strange because I was in Guangdong before summer, and I had my old Z visa from Hunan, extended there without having to go to HK, no problem. I also know another teacher who was in guangdong, and he was sent the papers in his home country and issued the visa in Guangdong too. We were also told HK was acceptable if getting a work visa for the first time.

As I, and Jay, have politely explained, it is straightforward. Are the FT's you're talking to degree holders, or are you talking about the criminal record check which I believe has now been introduced in Shenzhen, I'll try and respond later, as I just got up.

Cheers for your post, it's always good to hear whats going on man.
IM