"GOOD teaching programs in China?" is the subject of this thread. Though of some importance, it should come a DISTANT second to the subject "GOOD job security for FT's teaching in China?". The recent posts in this thread are about this rather than the actual subject of the thread. Given the horror stories that some FT's in China have to tell, I suggest none of us teaching here should give a damn about teaching programs in China. This is of virtually no importance when compared to the kind of disgusting and disgraceful treatment that some Chinese employers subject their foreign staff to. We didn't come thousands of miles to be burned. Let's get OUR priorities right! I've altered the subject of this thread accordingly.