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Dos - 2005-05-10
In response to not so... - ESL discussion (Mic)

I said that a certain class of men drink *a lot*. On average, over the population then yes, I would say Europeans drink more.
> You think the Chinese drink much? Don't make me laugh, they drink very little compared to Europeans.

I have never been to Beijing, and only visited Shanghai a few times, so I can't speak for them. The cities I was talking about are 'normal' ones, of which I have visited a fair amount in my years here.
> If you have been to more places in China than just Beijing and Shanghai, you would know how Chinese people really are. It is hard to tell in a city such as Shanghai which has so much foreign influences and businesses that tailor to them.

Oh come one! 23 - 23 year olds will do the same in ANY country. I know I did! ;)
> Boys will be Boys, NOT REALLY. It is basically a bunch of young graduates who are too afraid to be a man and work hard in their own countries, or they can't get a real job in their own countries because they chose a stupid major like anthropology. So they come here for a year to get away from their parents and University life.

Good grief! You have a very one sided view! I am no spring chicken any more (sadly), but I know many of the 'terrible' people you are speaking of, and whilst yes, I agree there are SOME (and a fair minority) who abuse the system, the vast majority do no more than they would in their home countries.
And what is the problem with taking a year out? As long as they take the work seriously, try hard, do a good job and take the chance to learn and grow, then I see no problem with a younger person using a job as a way to fund some 'sightseeing'. Hoepfully they will go home with an expanded view of the world. Many younger teachers are very popular with the students.

> Unfortunately, many don't spend their time wisely while in a wonderful foreign country, rather they drink it away just like in the University days. They are just travelers and confused young people who are using the ESL business in Asia to support their backbacking adventures. Shame on them! Go home! Don't come to Asia to do drugs, party, or drink. Even for the selfish reasons, like beer in China sucks, so go to Germany and teach if you want to drink, okay.....!!!
The visa requirements in China won't stop younger graduates coming at all, as they generally have the qualifications needed to come here. A couple of the most insane people I have known here have been older, supposedly more mature people with degrees.

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1.9 million - ESL discussion -- Mike B. -- 2005-05-07
Yo. Mic - ESL discussion -- Michael -- 2005-05-18
don't be pig - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-08
People who just don't get it - ESL discussion -- Mike B. -- 2005-05-09
don't write it then... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-09
Are you real? - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-08
stay home for that.... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-08
Hey you young, 'hip', discriminating types - ESL discussion -- SiamSap -- 2005-05-11
Better off without that job - ESL discussion -- Mike B. -- 2005-05-12
Thanks for the support - ESL discussion -- RhenoThai -- 2005-05-14
yeah... don't let it bother you - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-12
laughable - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-08
be a gentleman... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-09
Not your business - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-10
you go back.. we don't want to be Americanized - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-10
Assumption - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-11
You sound like an American - ESL discussion -- Da Yan Jing -- 2005-05-14
Life or something like it.... - ESL discussion -- China -- 2005-05-25
....and Mic's from where? - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-15
I don't know...... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-15
Sorry ! It didn't appear - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-14
what about it? - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-15
Not me! - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-14
Please don't generalize - ESL discussion -- Paul -- 2005-05-14
just a saying - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-12
Noyes - ESL discussion -- Dos -- 2005-05-09
not so... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-09
Fai hua - ESL discussion -- Dos -- 2005-05-10
i wish... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-11
No more space! - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-11
different... and discreet - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-11
Get your head out of the sand - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-11
wrong again.... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-12
What? - ESL discussion -- Mike B. -- 2005-05-12
good points, but..... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-13
Demand ensures jobs for "cowboys" - ESL discussion -- Mike B. -- 2005-05-15
To Mike B. Re. "Good Points" - ESL discussion -- jinchafa -- 2005-05-15
clean-up time... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-16
To Mic - ESL discussion -- Jay -- 2005-05-09
no you are... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-09
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