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Yingwen Laoshi - 2005-05-11

> It is a different kind of corruption. It is not the same and at least
> they are VERY discreet about it.

Oh! sorry,and I thought corruption was corruption.So as the East practices a different kind of corruption it's NOT corruption then,and of course if they're 'discreet' about it,then that's ok,it means they're not really corrupt then!Lol!

> Again, it was very calm, very discreet little amounts of corruption
> going on here. It was nothing compared to the garbage that happens in
> England and the United States. Many Expats came here to escape the
> immorale and uncultured ways in modern Western society.

Do I have to say this 5000 times? THERE IS NO LESS CORRUPTION IN CHINA THAN THERE IS IN THE WEST,IF ANYTHING THERE'S MUCH MORE IN THE EAST!

In China there is corruption in VIRTUALLY EVERY WALK OF LIFE.Here's a few examples.

1.Almost universal cheating on exams in schools all over China!

2.School employers everywhere lying ,breaking contracts,cheating,threatening,intimidating and exploiting not only their Western employees but their native ones too!

3.Managers and directors of fairly big companies in China on relatively low wages able to live very expensive lifestyles while their hardworking employees don't get even 1 mao of their sorry pittance of a wage for often months on end! (I wonder why?).

4. Countless Shops,hotels restaurants and businesses all over China charging foreigners way over the odds for goods and services(actually they often cheat their fellow countrymen too).This is so prevalent that even after more than two years in China,I often hide around the corner while my girlfriend buys things on my behalf.

5.An organised crime syndicate of beggars on the streets all over China cheating well meaning people out of their hard earnad cash.

6.Bribed policeman who allow, and even encorage thieves and pickpockets to steal from people on the streets.Sometimes the police actually stand across the road monitoring this waiting for their percentage.Me and my Chinese girlfriend actually witnessed this outside Shenzhen station and were told the facts by locals.

7.The country is swamped with inferior fake designer goods.

The above are just a few examples of corruption in China.I didn't want to get into this kind of debate ,but it's you who mentioned corruption first!

> Chinese and Muslims have something in common, the men do go out late,
> and sometimes drink (most Muslims are not supposed to and don't

All men from EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD have something in common ,many of them like to go out late and drink.

Most unmarried Asian girls are home
> before midnight, sometimes before 11pm, and if not , Mom and Dad will
> be calling. Alot different from a twenty-something year old from
> England or USA.

The above is certainly NOT always true,and even if it was it certainly would'nt prove that Asian girls are any more moral than Western girls.The fact is they do the same things .In fact the reason many don't stay out late is for the simple reason you yourself mentioned ,Mummy starts calling.If you don't believe this do some research on what Asian girls get up to when they're away from Mummy and Daddy working or studying in another city.

It's time you took off your rose tinted glasses and started to REALLY look and see that there is no difference in morals between the East and the West.
If countries in the East expect high standards from foreigners then they need to show a much better example and clean their act up fast!

Messages In This Thread
1.9 million - ESL discussion -- Mike B. -- 2005-05-07
Yo. Mic - ESL discussion -- Michael -- 2005-05-18
don't be pig - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-08
People who just don't get it - ESL discussion -- Mike B. -- 2005-05-09
don't write it then... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-09
Are you real? - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-08
stay home for that.... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-08
Hey you young, 'hip', discriminating types - ESL discussion -- SiamSap -- 2005-05-11
Better off without that job - ESL discussion -- Mike B. -- 2005-05-12
Thanks for the support - ESL discussion -- RhenoThai -- 2005-05-14
yeah... don't let it bother you - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-12
laughable - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-08
be a gentleman... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-09
Not your business - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-10
you go back.. we don't want to be Americanized - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-10
Assumption - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-11
You sound like an American - ESL discussion -- Da Yan Jing -- 2005-05-14
Life or something like it.... - ESL discussion -- China -- 2005-05-25
....and Mic's from where? - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-15
I don't know...... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-15
Sorry ! It didn't appear - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-14
what about it? - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-15
Not me! - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-14
Please don't generalize - ESL discussion -- Paul -- 2005-05-14
just a saying - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-12
Noyes - ESL discussion -- Dos -- 2005-05-09
not so... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-09
Fai hua - ESL discussion -- Dos -- 2005-05-10
i wish... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-11
No more space! - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-11
different... and discreet - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-11
Get your head out of the sand - ESL discussion -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2005-05-11
wrong again.... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-12
What? - ESL discussion -- Mike B. -- 2005-05-12
good points, but..... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-13
Demand ensures jobs for "cowboys" - ESL discussion -- Mike B. -- 2005-05-15
To Mike B. Re. "Good Points" - ESL discussion -- jinchafa -- 2005-05-15
clean-up time... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-16
To Mic - ESL discussion -- Jay -- 2005-05-09
no you are... - ESL discussion -- Mic -- 2005-05-09
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