still will ask you to come on an L Visa and get your physical in china, then go to a nearby foreign country or Hong Kong and get your Z Visa there.

@ Dragonized: I agree. But all the ruckus on eslcafe china boards seems to be that HK isn't accepting Z visa invites from certain provinces of China, namely guangdong.

Unless any guangdongers can comment differently?

Cheers and beers on
San Migs