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Magister - 2012-07-29
In response to Re: moral dilemma? (Clyde)

Is that serious advice or are you just being facetious?

I can't see how getting permission from mum and dad would help this situation. You've argued that the teacher is in a position of responsibility and power and that using that position to influence a relationship is wrong. Now you're substituting the teacher for the parents. Can you be sure that they are looking out for the emotional well being of their daughter? It's all too common for young Chinese men and women to be forced into relationships that they don't want. Is this use of power and coercion to influence a young mind acceptable because it comes from the parents?

You've claimed in other posts that you are able to get Chinese students to express themselves, form logical arguments, etc. Why now are you so keen for them to run back to their parents to get permission for starting a relationship? By all means she should seek advice from family and friends on the situation so that she can make an informed decision but as a 21 year old you shouldn't have to get permission from your parents.

In another post you to labelled others as chauvinists. I'd agree that many of the comments made about both Chinese and western women are derogatory and unnecessary. However, your unwillingness to accept that a 21 year old woman can make any judgement or decision for herself and instead should allow her parents to make her decisions for her is just another form of chauvinism, albeit that you have decided to take the moral high ground with your argument.

As for the FAO, you must be joking! Your first contribution to this site was to write a scathing attack on such people and their power plays. Now you're suggesting a teacher should seek out such individuals and ask them advice regarding their love life!

Once again you speculated as to the intentions of both parties when you claimed that the relationship is "doomed". You know nothing about these two people or what they want from the relationship, how can you make such a brash claim? The relationship may well finish but then the same can be said of the vast majority of relationships forged by anybody of any age and nationality. You yourself have claimed that you had the chance to marry but didn't take it because you value the freedom of a single life. Yet you have also stated that you've had relationships with Chinese women. Can you be sure that like you they knew that this relationship would never build into a lasting commitment? Are you sure that you haven't left individuals hurt or reputations ruined by your unwillingness to commit? What's the magic formula that you have for knowing exactly what an individual wants in any given situation or are you just a hypocrite?

Messages In This Thread
moral dilemma? -- Romeo -- 2012-07-27
Re: moral dilemma? -- Clyde -- 2012-08-02
Re: moral dilemma? - A Chinese Reaction? -- Magister -- 2012-08-02
Re: moral dilemma? - A Chinese Reaction? -- tianjindave -- 2012-08-03
Re: moral dilemma? - A Chinese Reaction? -- Clyde -- 2012-08-02
Re: moral dilemma? - A Chinese Reaction? -- Magister -- 2012-08-03
Re: moral dilemma? -- Ted -- 2012-08-02
Re: moral dilemma? -- Clyde -- 2012-08-02
I quit -- Clyde -- 2012-07-29
Re: I quit -- Dragonized -- 2012-07-29
Re: I quit -- Dragonized -- 2012-07-29
Re: I quit -- Clyde -- 2012-08-02
Re: I quit -- Dragonized -- 2012-08-03
Summation of the debate. -- Clyde -- 2012-07-29
Re: Summation of the debate. -- San Migs -- 2012-07-29
Re: Summation of the debate. -- Terry -- 2012-07-29
Re: moral dilemma? -- Clyde -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? -- Magister -- 2012-07-29
Re: moral dilemma? -- Clyde -- 2012-07-29
Re: moral dilemma? -- Magister -- 2012-07-29
Re: moral dilemma? -- Iconkiller -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? -- San Migs -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? IT IS AGAINST THE LAW!!! -- Clyde -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? IT IS AGAINST THE LAW!!! -- San Migs -- 2012-07-29
Re: moral dilemma? IT IS AGAINST THE LAW!!! -- Clyde -- 2012-07-29
Re: moral dilemma? IT IS AGAINST THE LAW!!! -- San Migs -- 2012-07-29
Re: moral dilemma? -- Clyde -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? -- Dragonized -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? -- Clyde -- 2012-07-29
Re: moral dilemma? -- Clyde -- 2012-07-27
Re: moral dilemma? -- mark -- 2012-07-27
Re: moral dilemma? -- Clyde -- 2012-07-27
Re: moral dilemma? -- San Migs -- 2012-07-27
Re: moral dilemma? -- Cupid -- 2012-07-27
Re: moral dilemma? -- Maxi -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? -- Clyde -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? -- Clyde -- 2012-07-27
Re: moral dilemma? -- Terry -- 2012-07-27
Re: moral dilemma? -- Dragonized -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? -- Magister -- 2012-07-27
Re: moral dilemma? -- Foreign Sexpert in Northern China -- 2012-07-27
Re: moral dilemma? -- Clyde -- 2012-07-27
Re: moral dilemma? -- Magister -- 2012-07-27
Re: moral dilemma? -- Clyde -- 2012-07-27
Re: moral dilemma? -- Magister -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? -- Dragonized -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? -- Clyde -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? -- Dragonized -- 2012-07-29
Re: moral dilemma? -- Terry -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? -- Dragonized -- 2012-07-29
Re: moral dilemma? -- Terry -- 2012-07-27
Re: moral dilemma? -- Clyde -- 2012-07-27
Re: moral dilemma? -- IMHO -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? -- Cupid -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? -- Magister -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? -- Dragonized -- 2012-07-28
Re: moral dilemma? -- Terry -- 2012-07-27
Re: moral dilemma? -- Clyde -- 2012-07-28
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