if you ever watch dissatisfied Chinese customers in a store... Are they polite? NO. They make a huge scene, they are loud, expressive and deliberately make sure that the other party loses face and faces the prospect of losing even more face. The offending party will often take face saving measures. Angry Chinese people do this even better than the most arrogant of self-entitled Westerners. Sometimes, you’ve got to yell, show muscle with guanxi connections if you have any too.

Yep, why are we supposed to act all apologetic but then allow the locals to do as they seek fit to us? This is a country that has produced "pillars of virtue" such as some chinese men who will have no problem "giving" their own daughter or wife to a superior to "use" in ways that goes way beyond what is considered professional boundaries. Folks growing up in this type of environment have little tolerance towards westerners who are too polite because it isn't compatible with what they are used to seeing. Being too polite is taken as being fake, which is the same as being considered a liar in the west. The reason angry chinese do it better is because they are not tied down with principle and rule abiding like we are, and some westerners on this board can't wrap their minds around that. These hapless folks don't get any extra favors from doing it in real life due to being in China, so they come on here and try to tell us how much more polite we have to be in order to avoid upsetting the Chinese. The Chinese are easy to upset due to fundamental lacks in child raising, and the only way that can be resolved is by effort to change on their own. We just need to stand our ground and not give an inch.