Yes indeed. This board really is a reflection of western society in a way. On one hand, you have some westerners who want to see improvement, see things get better, and speak out about mistakes that are being made in the respective society they are living in. On the other hand, you have your western apologist/romanticist who really does not actually understand the people they are living with (even if they are married to a local) and they will stop at nothing to cut down, discredit, and slander anyone who disagrees with them. The blatant cruelty of chinese women as well as the passive aggressive cruelty of soft western men make for a couple of very sore losers indeed! They deserve anything they get.