I found the initial thread, untouched, at http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/forum/index.pl?read=96260 (in the "View All" mode at http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/forum/index.pl?read=96260;expand=1)

There are two posts by Turnoi from that initial thread that stand alone in a separate thread at http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/forum/index.pl?read=96449;expand=1#m_96449 Maybe he started a second thread with the same title... who knows..... This is where you posted your latest message, and where I am replying to it now. So this "child of a lesser god" thread now has 4 posts. I will let the Mods know about it. Maybe they can bring the 2 posts from Turnoi inside the original thread?