Yep, so sorry, I didn't make myself very clear. What I meant to say but didn't is that most of us FT's working in China would be lucky enough to land a position in our respective Western schools (English schools-American schools, Australian ones) cleaning out the school toilets, let alone teaching the poor little blighters. I mean, I haven't spent years in teacher traing college, have you? I have a run of the mill degree and a two a penny, TEFL-wot about you? Normally to be a teacher you have to train properly as one. Are you qualified to teach rosy-red cheeked English kids in London or apple pie ones in Pennsylvania? If so you are in the minority of FT's.

Tom, in the other thread when you were on about your Z visa...I was going to concede defeat, but am now taking back what I wrote in that thread, you seem to know how to push my buttons and want me to respond, so respond I will and you will just have to lump it...

I haven't spent two years in a teacher college no, but I do have a BA, Celta and five years experience, not only in China. Agree on your part about you have to train properly to be classed as one, much like a doctor, and so on...