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Dragonized - 2012-07-24

Clyde, I think you took what I said way out of context. I don't hate or have animosity towards western women from the country that I am a citizen of. As a matter of fact, I adored the women growing up and thought the world of them. When you are in love with the idea of something, you will generally see past its faults. But going abroad allows you to make more comparisons.

It was working overseas and dealing with characters from all sorts of backgrounds across all genders that made me change my views slightly when it comes to certain groups. If I am living in the United States of America, England, or Australia I wouldn't categorize the western women as always being a certain way. But I did see how working overseas, being White, and being a Native Speaker all at the same time gave the western women the better chances of not experiencing as much negativity compared to what I went through as well as what others went through.

When you have less negative experience, you may keep a little bit of that bubble of everything being and going towards the better and it's easier to self rationalize the world as still being an optimistic, idealistic place to be in. Being deprived (if that's the correct word) of the truly bad experiences such as being out in the street with little money, being insulted personally by a student, being discriminated against in all walks of life, etc. you will not understand how reality can be much worse than how you see it. I just think the women I have met overseas came across as a little jaded sometimes, though not all were.

As for the disagreement over whether the system works or doesn't work in their favor, I was speaking from a perspective based out of ethnic definitions. Compared to, say, African American Women who work as ESL English Teachers in China (yes I have also worked with them) I would say the White Western Women has huge advantages. Just by applying for any ESL job I am sure they will get more responses per person than people defined as ethnic minorities in Western Countries.

I have also personally posted about how I heard of Chinese Bosses who had attempted rape on some of the female foreign teachers (this information I obtained from the Silverboy poster from something he had written a couple of years back) and how despicable that was. I am well aware there are 2 sides to every coin.

I think you contributed some very useful information regarding why we shouldn't come teach in China. However don't tell me I "hate" someone just because they belong to a certain, defined group. My personal resentment for some of the western women I have met come from personal experience including receiving opinions which come from an attitude of baseless arrogance. "Western Women" can also include women such as Japanese American, Pakastani British, Chinese Australian, etc. and I wouldn't necessarily want to deal with them any more than the western women I had met overseas. Maybe I wasn't specific enough, but let's be more modest, eh?

Messages In This Thread
Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Clyde -- 2012-07-22
And a couple more things -- Clyde -- 2012-07-23
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- The Bully Wee -- 2012-07-22
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- kevin -- 2012-07-23
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Dragonized -- 2012-07-23
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Clyde -- 2012-07-24
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Dragonized -- 2012-07-24
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Clyde -- 2012-07-24
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Dragonized -- 2012-07-24
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- The Bully Wee -- 2012-07-23
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- San Migs -- 2012-07-24
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- San Migs -- 2012-07-23
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Clyde -- 2012-07-23
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- juanisaac -- 2012-07-24
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Clyde -- 2012-07-24
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Magister -- 2012-07-23
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Terry -- 2012-07-22
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Clyde -- 2012-07-23
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- San Migs -- 2012-07-23
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Clyde -- 2012-07-23
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Terry -- 2012-07-23
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Magister -- 2012-07-23
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Terry -- 2012-07-24
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Magister -- 2012-07-24
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Terry -- 2012-07-25
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Clyde -- 2012-07-25
WHY YOU SHOULD NEVER TEACH IN CHINA AT ALL! -- Michael -- 2012-09-05
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Liam -- 2012-08-27
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Terry -- 2012-07-25
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- juanisaac -- 2012-07-26
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Terry -- 2012-07-26
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- foxy -- 2012-07-26
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Terry -- 2012-07-27
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- San Migs -- 2012-07-27
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Terry -- 2012-07-27
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Magister -- 2012-07-28
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Terry -- 2012-07-29
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Dragonized -- 2012-07-29
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- San Migs -- 2012-07-28
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Terry -- 2012-07-28
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- San Migs -- 2012-07-29
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Clyde -- 2012-07-25
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Terry -- 2012-07-26
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Clyde -- 2012-07-26
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Terry -- 2012-07-26
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- foxy -- 2012-07-25
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Terry -- 2012-07-26
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Magister -- 2012-07-25
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Clyde -- 2012-07-24
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Clyde -- 2012-07-23
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- San Migs -- 2012-07-23
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Magister -- 2012-07-23
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Clyde -- 2012-07-23
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- anon -- 2012-07-26
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Clyde -- 2012-07-26
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- San Migs -- 2012-07-22
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- juanisaac -- 2012-07-24
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Clyde -- 2012-07-24
Re: Why you should think twice about teaching in China -- Magister -- 2012-07-24
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